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Re: Internet Backbone Index
From: Mike Leber <mleber () he net>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:55:59 -0700 (PDT)
On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Gary Zimmerman wrote:
You talk about engineering good networks, why then use something that is unmanaged and uses poor technology and poor engineer designs in a MAE or NAP? Where is most of the packet lost on the internet? MAEs and NAPs.
This is gratutitous and misleading to the journalists and other non-network engineers here. The packet loss at NAPs and MAEs is caused by providers not upgrading the size or number of connections they have to/from the various exchange points they are experiencing problems at. An example of this disingenous usage of exchanges is Sprint's completely saturated T1 connection to CIX. There are many other examples. The solution is to not use those routes. If a provider is leaking bad routes and flaps continously, would you peer with them? Likewise, if a provider has a notoriously saturated connection to an exchange does it them become a (misleading) casebook example of why exchange points are bad? No and No. Mike. +------------------- H U R R I C A N E - E L E C T R I C -------------------+ | Mike Leber Direct Internet Connections Voice 408 282 1540 | | Hurricane Electric Web Hosting & Co-location Fax 408 971 3340 | | mleber () he net http://www.he.net | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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- Re: Internet Backbone Index, (continued)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Gary Zimmerman (Jul 09)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Tung-Hui Hu (Jul 09)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Tim Flavin (Jul 09)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Robert Laughlin (Jul 09)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Robert Laughlin (Jul 09)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Sean Donelan (Jul 09)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Gary Zimmerman (Jul 10)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Michael Dillon (Jul 10)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Ken Leland (Jul 10)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Michael Dillon (Jul 10)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Mike Leber (Jul 10)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Dorian R. Kim (Jul 13)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Dorian R. Kim (Jul 13)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Randy Bush (Jul 13)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Alex.Bligh (Jul 13)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Stephen Balbach (Jul 13)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Dorian R. Kim (Jul 13)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Stephen Balbach (Jul 13)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Dorian R. Kim (Jul 13)
- Benefits of switching at L2 Alan Hannan (Jul 13)
- Re: Benefits of switching at L2 Dorian R. Kim (Jul 13)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Michael Dillon (Jul 10)
- Re: Internet Backbone Index Gary Zimmerman (Jul 09)