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Re: Just got on this thing (perhaps very belatedly) - root server trouble?


From: Karl Denninger <karl () Mcs Net>
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:15:21 -0600 (CST)


You hear that right folks.  About 30% of the nameservers which supposedly 
are authoritative for .COM domains are either:
    1)      Non-existant (they don't resolve to an IP address)
    2)      Unreachable
or  3)      Don't know what "." is (!) 

Now, if it turns out that the number of so-called delegations which aren't
really backed by authority records is also 30% of the listing, then that
means that of the 790,000+ domains in the COM zone, only about 265,000 are
"real", in that they have both a nameserver online AND a proper authority
record on that nameserver.

This is a direct result of NSI accepting applications for domains, and
listing them, without checking for authoritative SOA records before issuing
the records in the COM zone!

I'm apalled at these numbers.

For once we agree. NSI should have stopped this practice long ago. You'll
be pleased to hear that there are other name registries (for instance the
one serving the "no" (Norway) TLD that actually perform this check.

Note that checking when an application is received isn't really enough.
In Norway we run regular (monthly) checks of all the second-level domains
under "no", and we always find a number of name servers which have ceased
being authoritative in the time since last check.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug () nethelp no

We haven't even gotten that far yet.  I'm just looking at the following
things right now:

1)      Does the hostname listed in the NS line resolve.
2)      Does the resolved hostname actually GO anywhere.
3)      Is there something listening on UDP port 53 at that location.
4)      Does it know what "." is.

We're now well into the "C"s, and so far 32% of the NS lines in the TLD
list for COM file fail one of these four tests!

This is pretty clearly unacceptable, and far worse than I had ever
imagined it was.

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