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Fwd: Fwd: FreePress is suing the FCC. Here's how the process works.
From: "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 00:28:30 +0000
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Cory Doctorow <doctorow () craphound com> Date: Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 7:20 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [IP] FreePress is suing the FCC. Here's how the process works. To: <dave () farber net>, ip <ip () listbox com> This isn't that complicated. When I get into a taxi and ask it to take me to a store, that's the store I want to go to, not the store that has paid the cabbie for "premium delivery." I don't want the cab to delay me by circling the block a few times because I have chosen a store that makes the cabbie less money. The fact that the store is making choices about what they sell and how they display it does not justify the cab driver slowing me down to increase the attractiveness of a store that paid him to do so. The fact that taxis are expensive and speculative and require substantial capex and labor inputs and maintenance does not justify the cab driver slowing me down to increase the attractiveness of a store that paid him to do so. The fact that the store treats its suppliers poorly, or manipulates its customers with clever retail psychology to entice me into making purchases I later regret does not justify the cab driver slowing me down to increase the attractiveness of a store that paid him to do so. The fact that the taxi company wants to become a retailer does not justify the cab driver slowing me down to increase the attractiveness of a store that paid him to do so. I buy internet service to get me the bits I request, as expeditiously as possible. Any ISP that thinks its customers have signed up for anything else is kidding itself (or, more likely, kidding the FCC). Cory On 12/29/2017 04:09 PM, Dave Farber wrote:
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Richard Bennett <richard () bennett com <mailto:richard () bennett com>> Date: Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [IP] FreePress is suing the FCC. Here's how the process
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To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net <mailto:dave () farber net>> CC: ip <ip () listbox com <mailto:ip () listbox com>> So the issue with net neutrality is that AT&T, Comcast, and Verizon shouldn’t have EXACTLY THE SAME ABILITY TO CENSOR SPEECH that Twitter, Facebook, Cloudflare and Google have always had? Wow. It’s a lot easier - and less consequential - for me to switch from the Wi-Fi network back ended by Comcast to the Wi-Fi hotspot back ended by AT&T than to switch from Facebook to Google+. I saw a Tweet today that encapsulates everything that’s wrong with net neutrality: "People fear their ISP way too much and the edge providers not nearly enough.” Think it through. Happy New Year! RBOn Dec 29, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Dave Farber <dave () farber net <mailto:dave () farber net>> wrote: As soon as the FCC publishes its so-called “Restoring Internet Freedom Order” in the Federal Register and gets final approval for its decision, companies like AT&T, Comcast and Verizon will be free to block or discriminate against any content, apps and online services they choose. That includes any political speech they disagree with — a disturbing prospect given how many basic rights are under attack right now.— Richard Bennett High Tech Forum <http://hightechforum.org> Founder Ethernet & Wi-Fi standards co-creator Internet Policy Consultant Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/124892-d3638c1c> | Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&> Your Subscription | Unsubscribe Now <
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