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Re New York Times defends hiring extreme climate denier: 'millions agree with him'
From: "David Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 07:46:02 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Hasan Diwan <hasan.diwan () gmail com> Subject: Re: [IP] Re New York Times defends hiring extreme climate denier: 'millions agree with him' Date: April 22, 2017 at 7:07:38 AM EDT To: "dave () farber net" <dave () farber net> Prof Farber, [for IP, should you deem fit] While I'm sure that one can persuade "millions" to say "I believe the climate is not changing", the more important/relevant question to ask is "Assuming the climate is changing, should humans do anything about it?" to which the answer that my old Biology professor liked to give was that life will find a way, but maybe without us. So, if one doesn't give a toss about one's own species, then sure, deny the need to do anything about climate change, as life will find a way to cope, but I, for one, want my descendants to be born and enjoy the same (or better) lifestyle than myself. Therefore, I'm firmly in the camp of "something needs to be done about the increased frequency of extreme weather on Earth". Also, let's be charitable and say that there are 1 and a half million climate change deniers on Earth, out of a total population of 7.5 billion is 2%, which is less than the margin of error in most of the polls that pass as facts in news broadcasts. -- H On 20 April 2017 at 17:18, Dave Farber <dave () farber net <mailto:dave () farber net>> wrote: ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org <mailto:rsk () gsp org>> Date: Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [IP] New York Times defends hiring extreme climate denier: 'millions agree with him' To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net <mailto:dave () farber net>> (for IP, if you wish) This is not only incredibly tone-deaf, it's dangerous. I've been engaged in climatology self-education for the past 15 years or so, attempting to leverage my science and engineering background into a basic understanding of the field via books, papers, IPCC reports, etc. I've lost count of the number of times a new paper or report shows that previous ones erred -- and those errors are almost invariably on the conservative side, i.e., newer work shows that the situation is worse than previously thought. The emergence of positive feedback loops is particularly troubling; it seems like every few months another is uncovered and found to be contributing to the overall trend. The more I learn, the more horrified I become. Albert A. Bartlett wrote that the greatest shortcoming of the human race is man's inability to understand the exponential function. We stand at an inflection point on a curve, staring at the slope rising in front of us, with limited time and resources to avoid the nearly inevitable...and the New York Times is pandering to the scientifically illiterate for the sake of some transient profits. I would say that the judgment of history will be harsh -- but I fear that few will be left to write it. ---rsk Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/659737-d7f51c21> | Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&> Your Subscription | Unsubscribe Now <https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?&&post_id=20170420201829:0999F684-2628-11E7-A1C8-A107E818BB2D> <http://www.listbox.com/> -- OpenPGP: https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xFEBAD7FFD041BBA1 <https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xFEBAD7FFD041BBA1> If you wish to request my time, please do so using http://bit.ly/hd1ScheduleRequest <http://bit.ly/hd1ScheduleRequest>. Si vous voudrais faire connnaisance, allez a http://bit.ly/hd1ScheduleRequest <http://bit.ly/hd1ScheduleRequest>. <https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xFEBAD7FFD041BBA1>Sent from my mobile device Envoye de mon portable ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/18849915-ae8fa580 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-aa268125 Unsubscribe Now: https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-32545cb4&post_id=20170422074609:455F7E8A-2751-11E7-9D9F-957464EC21E5 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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