FwRe US government starts asking foreign travelers to disclose their social media accounts

["Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>]

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Wendy M. Grossman <wendyg () pelicancrossing net>
Date: Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [IP] Re US government starts asking foreign travelers to
disclose their social media accounts
To: <dave () farber net>


For IP if you wish:



Seems to me the idea here might be to collect whatever data people give

voluntarily to analyze and determine whether it's useful enough to make

the policy mandatory. And to take advantage of whatever people are

willing to give them.



This is a situation where wider social responsibility would seem to

dictate refusing to supply the information, but people facing

immigration officials tend to be scared enough to want to just get

through without attracting attention.



wg



On 2016-12-25 17:16, Dave Farber wrote:

>

>

>

> Begin forwarded message:

>

> > *From:* Herb Lin <herblin () stanford edu <mailto:herblin () stanford edu>>

> > *Date:* December 25, 2016 at 10:47:33 AM EST

> > *To:* "dave () farber net <mailto:dave () farber net>" <dave () farber net

> > <mailto:dave () farber net>>, ip <ip () listbox com <mailto:ip () listbox com>>

> > *Subject:* *RE: [IP] US government starts asking foreign travelers to

> > disclose their social media accounts*

> >

> > What is to prevent a would-be terrorist from creating a second social

> > media account that is scrubbed to be innocuous and providing the name

> > of that account to CBP authorities?

> >

> > And what of the business opportunities available in creating such

> > innocuous accounts?

> >

> > What am I missing here?

> >

> > Herb

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone

> >

> >

> > -------- Original message --------

> > From: Dave Farber <farber () gmail com <mailto:farber () gmail com>>

> > Date: 12/24/16 8:51 PM (GMT-08:00)

> > To: ip <ip () listbox com <mailto:ip () listbox com>>

> > Subject: [IP] US government starts asking foreign travelers to

> > disclose their social media accounts

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Begin forwarded message:

> >

> > > *From:* Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com

> > > <mailto:dewayne () warpspeed com>>

> > > *Date:* December 23, 2016 at 5:16:36 AM EST

> > > *To:* Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net <dewayne-net () warpspeed com

> > > <mailto:dewayne-net () warpspeed com>>

> > > *Subject:* *[Dewayne-Net] US government starts asking foreign

> > > travelers to disclose their social media accounts*

> > > *Reply-To:* dewayne-net () warpspeed com <mailto:dewayne-net () warpspeed com>

> > >

> > > US government starts asking foreign travelers to disclose their

> > > social media accounts

> > > To ‘identify potential threats’

> > > By Nick Statt

> > > Dec 22 2016

> > > <
http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/22/14066082/us-customs-border-patrol-social-media-account-facebook-twitter
>

> > >

> > > The US Customs and Border Protection has started demanding that

> > > foreign travelers hand over Facebook, Twitter, and other social media

> > > account information upon entering the country, according to a report

> > > from Politico. The new policy follows a proposal laid out back in

> > > June and applies only to those travelers who enter the US temporarily

> > > without a visa through the Electronic System for Travel

> > > Authorization, or ESTA, process. The goal, the government says, is to

> > > “identify potential threats,” a spokesperson tells Politico.

> > >

> > > Activists fear the policy could be a threat to human rights

> > >

> > > The new policy went into effect on Tuesday, and the request is

> > > currently “optional.” It asks foreign travelers to “enter information

> > > associated with your online presence,” and offers a drop-down menu

> > > allowing participants to enter in account names for most major social

> > > networks, including LinkedIn and even Google+.

> > >

> > > It’s unclear if the information collected can be immediately used to

> > > deny travelers entry into the US. However, the express purpose of the

> > > collection is to identify individuals with ties to terrorist groups.

> > > As it stands today, Customs and Border Protection says it will not

> > > deny entry to those that refuse to submit any social media information.

> > >

> > > Still, the implementation of such a controversial policy has enraged

> > > human rights activists and technology companies. Members of both

> > > communities expressed concern when the policy was first proposed this

> > > past summer. At the time, industry lobbying group the Internet

> > > Association, which represents companies like Facebook and Google,

> > > joined with the ACLU to condemn the proposal for its potential free

> > > speech and privacy violations.

> > >

> > > These groups fear that the request for social media info, although

> > > voluntary, will urge members of marginalized groups from the Middle

> > > East and elsewhere to fill out the information for fear of being

> > > denied entry. It could then be highly scrutinized, activists say,

> > > without clear and transparent guidelines. The policy could also lead

> > > to potential abuses and even security risks as the information is

> > > collected and stored by the government.

> > >

> > > [snip]

> > >

> > > Dewayne-Net RSS Feed: <http://dewaynenet.wordpress.com/feed/>

> > >

> > >

> Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now>

> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/9858326-8d1a63ed> |

> Modify

> <
https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;
>

> Your Subscription | Unsubscribe Now

> <
https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?&&post_id=20161225121657:EE37186C-CAC5-11E6-9BFA-AB7F7C0BA768
>

>       [Powered by Listbox] <http://www.listbox.com>

>



--

--

www.pelicancrossing.net <== all about me

Twitter: @wendyg



-------------------------------------------
Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now
RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/18849915-ae8fa580
Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-aa268125
Unsubscribe Now: 
https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-32545cb4&post_id=20161225140151:95E754EC-CAD4-11E6-9D8A-9C7084A07B16
Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com