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Banks Set for Record Pay - 18% over last year!!


From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:45:54 -0500





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From: hal () halstucker com
Date: January 15, 2010 5:24:19 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Banks Set for Record Pay - 18% over last year!!


Dear Prof. Farber:

What much of the current debate seems to lack, centered as it is on bank pay structures and bailout funding, is a broader understanding of the history and depth of the financial sector's misdeeds. I won't go so far as to say America's bankers have "stolen" from us, a la Madoff, by simply taking money from ripe suckers and stuffing it into their pockets. But what has happened over the last two to three years is the fruit of an unfortunately very successful effort to dismantle this country's system of financial regulation. These efforts began roughly around the time of the Regan administration and have been promulgated by lobbyists in the pay of the financial services industry. And our lawmakers have been there every step of the way, helping the process along in a stunning display of bi- partisanship.

To take only one particularly egregious example, can anyone tell me how banks such as Citi and BofA all of a sudden became too big to fail? How they were allowed to make all kinds of risky purchases of complex financial instruments they didn't understand, while also holding the life savings of ordinary citizens like you and me? Savings in many instances insured by the FDIC?

There once was a wonderful set of laws known as the Banking Act of 1933 or, more commonly, the Glass?Steagall Act, put into place shortly after the 1929 meltdown of the financial sector. Glass- Steagall was designed to curb speculation and essentially put a "Chinese wall" between retail banking and much riskier investment banking, and also between the banking and insurance industries. The financial services sector screamed bloody murder when the law was passed and have been trying to have it repealed ever since. It finally was repealed under the Clinton administration, its dismantling seen to by then-Treasury Secretary Robber Rubin, now a key financial advisor to the Obama administration.

The immediate result was Citibank's extremely ill-advised acquisition of Traveler's Insurance, one of the key reasons Citi is currently in the shape it's in. But another result is what we see all around us now -- the crashing and burning of banks that set up what were essentially internal hedge funds that made billions of dollars in ill-advised bets on a whole Coney Island fun house full of complicated derivatives and other obscure almost-impossible-to- understand financial instruments. Instruments that both Rubin and Fed chairman Alan Greenspan steadfastly refused to regulate throughout their tenures.

As has been widely noted, Rubin left government service to take a high-paying job as a director at, ah, Citibank. Is he to be called before the current Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, to be asked embarrassing questions about what appears to be, at best, an unseemly conflict of interest? Not that I know of.

And what the wise men of Wall Street seemed to understand yesterday, but of course would never say, is that this, like the furor over the AIG bonuses, will quickly subside, leaving them free to start the process all over again. If there were no angry, pitchfork-and-torch- wielding mobs marching down Wall Street last night, the chances are good there never will be. Far from doing something sensible, like restoring Glass-Steagall, legislators will pass a few perfunctory regulations that the guys down in legal will quickly find ways to circumvent, and Goldman, et al., will be free to "innovate" once again.

To paraphrase Mr. Churchill, people get the oligarchy they deserve.

Best,
Hal Stucker

PS, Paul Krugman has written on all this quite extensively, including today's column, at http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/15/opinion/15krugman.html?hp

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Farber [mailto:dfarber () me com]
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:19 AM
To: 'ip'
Subject: [IP] Re: Banks Set for Record Pay - 18% over last year!!

 >From: "Jonathan S. Shapiro" <shap () eros-os org>
>To: <dave () farber net>
>Cc: "ip" <ip () v2 listbox com>
>Date: January 15, 2010 11:11:49 AM EST
>Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Banks Set for Record Pay - 18% over last year!!
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:45 AM, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
As for home value, they're still over valued compared to the trend line. If your home value dropped, that's unfortunate. So did mine, but that's the way the dice rolls and I'm not going to blame it on some guy that happens to work for a bank just because I might naturally be jealous of the money he
makes.


They *did* steal from us, and it has nothing to do with house valuations or trend lines. It's very simple: the banks wrote bad loans in the full knowledge that they would be bailed out by the government using taxpayer money. That money ultimately comes out of your pocket and mine. I don't know about you, but *I* wasn't a party to those loans, and I certainly wouldn't have approved loans to people who self-evidently lacked the means to pay. When somebody contrives to reach into your pocket and take your money without your consent, what do *you* call it? I call it theft.

You are correct that there are contracts requiring that the banks pay the participants according to certain formulae. And I'm happy if we do that, so long as we prosecute the parties involved. We can then seize the bonuses as income derived from crime, which is the treatment it deserves.

The tragedy here is that when everybody is responsible, nobody is responsible, and nobody can be held accountable.


Jonathan
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