re Internet implies (only) a computer? (was: Case closed: why most of USA lacks 100Mbps 'Net connections)

[Dave Farber <dave () farber net>]

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> From: Amy Wohl <amy () wohl com>
> Date: February 28, 2010 12:45:07 PM EST
> To: dave () farber net
> Subject: RE: [IP] re  Internet implies (only) a computer? (was: Case  
> closed: why most of USA lacks 100Mbps 'Net connections)

> The world will get its Internet connections not through PC’s (in the 
>  majority) but by smaller and less expensive handheld devices (think 
>  SmartPhones and their increasingly cheaper children).  We are alrea 
> dy at the point where about half of the world connects to the Intern 
> et by something other than a PC.
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> We need to start thinking about the implications of this and what we  
> should be doing in the US both to get more Internet connectivity to  
> people who don’t use PC’s (for whatever reason) and to think  
> about the business models US companies should be considering.
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> From: Dave Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 1:11 PM
> To: ip
> Subject: [IP] re Internet implies (only) a computer? (was: Case  
> closed: why most of USA lacks 100Mbps 'Net connections)
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> From: Peter Capek <capek () ieee org>
> Date: February 27, 2010 12:50:25 PM EST
> To: dave () farber net
> Subject: Internet implies (only) a computer? (was: Case closed: why  
> most of USA lacks 100Mbps 'Net connections)
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> Gerry Faulhaber observed that about 76% of US homes presently a
> computer and about 63% have a broadband service, and
> goes on to state that if you don't have a computer at home, you won't
> get broadband service.   But I wonder if the devices -
> which I see from the ads in my Sunday paper are commonplace - which
> use a broadband internet connection, sometimes disguised as a DVD or
> Blu-Ray player, which provide access to Netflix and other
> non-carrier-provided movie services won't take up much of the "slack".
>   Harking back to Mary Shaw's comment, I wonder if people who are
> using (only) these devices would answer "yes" when asked if they were
> using the  Internet.   My bet would be that they mostly would not.
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>            Peter Capek
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> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:39 AM, David Farber <dave () farber net>  
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> From: "Gerry Faulhaber" <gerry-faulhaber () mchsi com>
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> Date: February 27, 2010 11:16:50 AM EST
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> To: <dave () farber net>
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> Subject: Re: [IP] must read ] Case closed: why most of USA lacks  
> 100Mbps 'Net connections
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> Dave [for IP if you like]--
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> A critical number that we all forget when talkinig about (wireline)   
> BB to every home: less than 80% (maybe more like 76%) of US  
> households have a PC, and this number exhibits almost no recent  
> growth. 63% of households now have BB.  If you don't have a PC you  
> will never get wireline BB.  So our actual room for improvement in  
> wireline BB (to catch up with Denmark and Korea in the OECD league  
> tables, if that is our national objective) is very slim.
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> I agree with Genachowski and Blair Levin at the FCC that we need to  
> plan much more seriously about wireless BB.
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> Professor Emeritus Gerry Faulhaber
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> Wharton School and Penn Law, University of Pennsylvania
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> From: Dave Farber
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> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 9:27 AM
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> Subject: [IP] must read ] Case closed: why most of USA lacks 100Mbps  
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> From: Mary Shaw <mary.shaw () gmail com>
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> Date: February 27, 2010 9:21:55 AM EST
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> To: dave () farber net, Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
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> Subject: Re: [IP] Case closed: why most of USA lacks 100Mbps 'Net  
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> Perhaps a small thing, but details matter.  The Pew Foundation's
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> project on the Internet and American Life published an annual
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> assessment of the demographics of Internet users.  According to the
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> http://www.pewinternet.org/Static-Pages/Trend-Data/Whos-Online.aspx
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> in December 2009 74% of American adults used the internet.
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> This is a slight drop from their survey in April 2009, which did not
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> include Spanish interviews. At that time they found that 79% of
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> English-speaking adults use the internet.
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> Back to December 2009, penetration is 93% for the age 18-29
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> demographic, so it's probably fair to assume that it's also high for
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> kids under 18, down to some age that I can't pin down where
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> penetration is more in their parents' control than their own.
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> Penetration is only 60% for household income less than $30K/year, but
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> I don' t know how to separate "can't afford" from "don't care", though
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> the 39% penetration for adults with less than high school education
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> Their April 2009 survey showed 63% with broadband at home with an
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> average monthly bill of $39, up 15% from a year earlier.
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> http://www.pewinternet.org/Reports/2009/10-Home-Broadband-Adoption-2009.aspx
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> Main reasons for not using the Internet or email were "just not
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> interested" (22%), "don't have access" (16%) and "too expensive" (10%)
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> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:06 AM, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
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> From: dewayne () warpspeed com (Dewayne Hendricks)
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> Date: February 24, 2010 1:45:49 PM EST
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> To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <xyzzy () warpspeed com>
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> Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Case closed: why most of USA lacks 100Mbps  
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> Case closed: why most of USA lacks 100Mbps 'Net connections
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> By Matthew Lasar | Last updated February 23, 2010 9:42 AM
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> <http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/02/case-closed-why-most-of-usa-lacks-100mbps-net-connections.ars 
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> But in case you didn't notice, 100Mbps x 100 million didn't happen.  
> About 75 to 77 million Americans currently access some kind of  
> broadband, according to the latest data. That's only assuming,  
> however, that you accept 200Kbps as a flavor of "high speed  
> Internet." And a huge chunk of the population (over 30 percent)  
> never go online at all—less because they're retired and not interest 
> ed; more often because they can't afford the prices.
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