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Re: Steganography via VoIP...
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:57:21 -0500
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From: "Synthesis:Law and Technology Law and Technology" <synthesis.law.and.technology () gmail com >Date: February 17, 2010 6:39:44 PM EST To: dave () farber net Cc: ip <ip () v2 listbox com> Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Steganography via VoIP...
Dave,More to the point, in the article I saw no mention that any of this was more than a hypothetical 'it could happen like this' scenario. It's always been relatively easy for smart people to hide communication, as David P Reed just pointed out. Where is the evidence that this is actually something new that is being used?On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Dave Farber <dave () farber net> wrote: Begin forwarded message:From: "David P. Reed" <dpreed () reed com> Date: February 16, 2010 9:08:12 PM EST To: dave () farber net Cc: ip <ip () v2 listbox com> Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Steganography via VoIP...Come on. IEDs are triggered by cellphones purchased off of eBay, and cheapo RC airplane kits sold by the zillions from China.Only the truly confused would think that steganography over SIP VoIP is some kind of novel and uniquely dangerous thing.In 1992 as a quick hack, I happened to demonstrate that you can send TCP packets with bad checksums (subtract 1), which provides a near-invisible "covert channel" that penetrates everywhere with very low probability of detection or interception. This channel is still wide open, and a far better channel than stego-over-VoIP for the same target devices.Archives -- Dan Steinberg SYNTHESIS:Law & Technology 35, du Ravin phone: (613) 794-5356 Chelsea, Quebec J9B 1N1
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- Steganography via VoIP... David Farber (Feb 16)
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- Re: Steganography via VoIP... Dave Farber (Feb 17)