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Apple submits patent for embedding advertising in OS!


From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:44:04 -0400





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From: "L. Leon Campbell" <campbell () udel edu>
Date: October 28, 2009 9:01:42 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: "L. Leon Campbell" <campbell () udel edu>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Apple submits patent for embedding advertising in OS!


I also have not seen very much on this list about the crapy Academic version of
of the great & new Windows 7.  :-)

Leon.

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:27:14 -0400
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: [IP] Re: Apple submits patent for embedding advertising in OS!
To: "ip" <ip () v2 listbox com>



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From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: October 27, 2009 8:50:34 PM EDT
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>, Jim Warren <jwarren () well com>
Cc: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Subject: Re: [IP] Apple submits patent for embedding advertising in OS!

On Oct 27, 2009, at 8:27 PM, David Farber wrote:

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From: Jim Warren <jwarren () well com>
Date: October 27, 2009 8:02:04 PM EDT
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: Apple submits patent for embedding advertising in OS!

Just what we need - our computer's operating-system forcing
advertising on us!

Apparently it's not enough for Apple to force iPhone users to sign-
up for over-priced AT&T "services" (unless they're in Communist
China!), or block iPhone owners from using Flash, or prohibit
Netflix on some of its systems.

Of all the things Apple does wrong, this is what you decide to
complain about?

The iPhone is a high-end smart phone, nearly every single one of which
is tied to a specific provider.  Want to buy a Palm Pre, you need
Sprint.  Going to rail against Palm?  And it's not just "communist
China" that sells unlocked phones (although I would be careful which
iPhone you buy in China, since 99% aren't iPhones). Several countries
(e.g. Australia) have laws forcing the sale of unlocked phones.  But
those unlocked phones will cost you a lot more than buying a phone
here and breaking your ATT contract.

Apple didn't "block" flash, they just didn't write software for it.
Just like the majority of smartphones on the market today.  Going to
rail against the rest of the industry?

And what "system" does not support Netflix? Every Apple computer sold
supports Netflix.  Perhaps you mean the AppleTV?  It is true that
doesn't support Netflix, doesn't support Amazon Unbox either.
Somehow, this does not shock me as the point of the AppleTV is to sell things off iTunes. Turning this around, are you going to rail against
Netflix because their set-top box does not support iTunes?


Every company has flaws.  As consumers we should push back when
companies do stupid things.  But let's be rational about it.  If you
do not like the options on the iPhone, don't buy one.  If you are
upset at Apple for locking the iPhone to AT&T, that's reasonable, but
do not single them out.  Fight for laws like Australia has.

There are so many other things Apple does which are silly or stupid or
annoying that are genuine-Apple problems, I'm really kinda surprised
this is the best list you could come up with.

--
TTFN,
patrick



Now they've applied for a patent for embedding advertising in the
OS! (I'll bet Microsoft is envious!)

[from PC World]  http://bit.ly/zrOtV

Apple Applies for Patent on OS With Embedded Advertising

Jeff Porten, Macworld.com
Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:50 PM PDT

"Want to launch Microsoft Office? Sure, but first a word from our
sponsor." That somewhat surreal scenario could become a reality,
based on a patent application filed by Apple, which was published
today by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. If this is ever
implemented on your Apple hardware, your Mac, iPhone, or Apple TV
may require you to watch and interact with advertisements in order
to use them.

... <SNIP> ...

--jim; open-govt & tech-civlib advocate & sometime columnist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Warren
justjim36 on twitter  |  Jim Warren on Facebook




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