Re: more on Apple

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

Begin forwarded message:

From: Richard Forno <rforno () infowarrior org>
Date: July 29, 2009 7:31:29 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: "ip" <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] more on Apple


Dave,

Dan makes a valid point and suggests a viable course of action that  
Apple could conceivably pursue, and tht's scary!

I've not been a fan of the iPhone for the non-removable battery aspect  
in particular. That said, is it just me or are Apple's actions on the  
iPhone starting to make the more clueful users sit up and realize that  
Apple can arbitrarly brick your phone, delete apps, prevent apps, and  
turn your iPhone into essentially a walled garden where not only is  
Apple the 'gatekeeper' for anything you might want to run on the  
device, but also create a situation where the user is unable able to  
trust their device to always be as they expect it to be?

Put it in pre-iPhone perspective:  if Apple suddenly decided that  
Firefox was 'dangerous' or 'immoral' on my OSX system -- or saw it as  
"duplicating functionality" in the Apple-provided Safari browser  
already on my system-- and deleted it w/o my knowledge, you can bet  
I'd be moved to another OS before the day was done!

I wonder how many IP'ers are feeling a growing sense of scepticism  
about Apple's motives and conduct in many things related to the iPhone.

-rick
...still iPhone free and not wanting one either




On Jul 29, 2009, at 16:37 , David Farber wrote:

> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Dan Gillmor <dan () gillmor com>
> Date: July 29, 2009 4:13:45 PM EDT
> To: dave () farber net
> Subject: Re: [IP] Digest 1.2129 for ip
>
> > I am beginning to think Apple is joining the evil empire. I think
> > that is going to be bad for them in the future. One trip and they
> > could find their loyalists moving elsewhere.
>
>
> Wait until they do their much-rumored new tablet. This will be a big  
> test of how evil they plan to be. Will it use the iPhone OS or  
> something like it, and officially only allow apps from the Apple  
> store? Or will it run the regular MacOS that still includes user  
> choice? The company's trajectory and recent history don't give me  
> much comfort.
>
> One of the phones I use is a first-generation iPhone, which works  
> fine with T-Mobile (though its coverage is certainly not any better  
> than AT&T's where I use it), and have several jailbreak-required  
> apps including GV, the third-party Google Voice app that Apple  
> rejected, apparently because of their deal with AT&T.
>
> But even though the iPhone software is clearly the class of the  
> industry, and the device has become my favorite way to watch videos  
> and listen to music when traveling, I can't abide Apple's attitude  
> and behavior. So I'm moving toward Android (with Symbian still a  
> possibility), which, while not nearly as slick, is improving at a  
> dramatic rate. I still have an older iPod Touch, which is more than  
> good enough for the entertainment stuff.
>
>
>
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