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Re: FCC wants a magic, porn-free wireless Internet
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:36:16 -0700
________________________________________ From: Dana Spiegel [dana () nycwireless net] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:24 PM To: David Farber; ip Subject: Re: [IP] Re: FCC wants a magic, porn-free wireless Internet Everyone is talking about how the FCC is sticking its nose into matters of thought and language regulation with Martin's free wireless internet plan, but for me, there's an even bigger issue: If a company is interested in providing free internet to everyone, where are they going to make their money? This isn't a good samaritan effort, its a business. Best I can figure it, there's really only 2 ways that a company like M2Z can build a profitable business providing free internet: 1) ADVERTISING - essentially the FCC is selling a license to the highest bidder to create a nationwide advertising billboard, kinda like riding the internet superhighway (though not all that super given the speeds expected) crammed end to end with countless advertising banners. 2) SELLING PERSONAL BROWSING/DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION - enticing people to use the internet for free, and then collecting all sorts of information about them and selling that information to anyone that will buy it. We need to seriously ask HOW such an initiative will be funded by the winning company. I personally don't like the idea of giving our spectrum away to a billboard advertiser or data sniffer (or both), and especially limiting it to a single provider who will have a monopoly without pressure from competitors to do the right things. A far better solution would be to open up the spectrum under the same or similar licensing regime as the 2.4Ghz range, and let anyone use the spectrum. Then, if a company (or companies) want to set up such a service, they can, but so can anyone else (like universities, schools, community wireless organizations, concerned citizens) and provide real options for getting nationwide wireless internet service. -- Dana Spiegel Executive Director NYCwireless dana () NYCwireless net www.NYCwireless.net +1 917 402 0422 Read the Wireless Community blog: http://www.wirelesscommunity.info ------------------- NYCwireless is a non-profit organization that advocates for, and enables the growth of free, public wireless networks ------------------- On Jun 25, 2008, at 1:35 PM, David Farber wrote:
________________________________________ From: Drew Lentz [drew () drewlentz com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:48 AM To: David Farber Cc: ip Subject: Re: [IP] Re: ] FCC wants a magic, porn-free wireless Internet In a day and age where we are getting trampled in the internet access game, this little excuse for playing catch-up is a slap in the face. We are a country that promotes the fact that we have freedoms that no one else does, however our FCC wants to keep an eye on what we choose to view. We all know content filtering won't work, but its the fact that the FCC is trying to extend its hand onto my desktop that I have an issue with. M2Z tried and failed multiple times to get this done. Why now? What changed to make this a priority now, when the FCC wasn't having it before? -dl On Jun 25, 2008, at 7:48 AM, David Farber wrote:________________________________________ From: Rich Kulawiec [rsk () gsp org] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:28 AM To: David Farber Cc: Sunil Garg Subject: Re: [IP] FCC wants a magic, porn-free wireless Internet On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 03:34:03AM -0700, David Farber wrote:David Weinberger writes, "The FCC is suggesting that it will make a slice of spectrum available for free Internet access to users, so long as the providers filter out all the porn...and, if the filters don't work, then the providers have to use 'other means,' which presumably might include blocking entire application types or protocols, or blocking encrypted data. It includes filtering p2p traffic. The idea is now open for public comment. One of the prominent supporters of this idea, M2Z, which is bidding for it, bills itself as a 'free family friendly broadband' company. "M2Z is a company run by former FCC insiders and backed by religious fascists (e.g., Focus on the Family): one of the founders (according to Infoworld) is former FCC wireless head Juln Muleta. They're also promising something -- porn filtering -- which everyone knows can't be done...well, everyone except the companies which continue to falsely claim it can be because doing so lines their pockets with profits far more obscene than any porn found on the Internet. Nor should it be done: in a week in which we lost George Carlin, his masterpiece "Seven Words You Can't Say On Television" should be a mandatory part of the contemporary American cultural curriculum in every high school in the country. ---Rsk ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com------------------------------------------- Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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