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Re: BEST LAW MONAY CAN BUY -- Senate votes Telecom immunity
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:31:41 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Lee Tien <tien () eff org> Date: February 13, 2008 3:03:49 PM EST To: dave () farber netCc: Jon Urdan <jon () lambeaucap com>, Brad Templeton <4brad () templetons com> Subject: [IP] Re: BEST LAW MONAY CAN BUY -- Senate votes Telecom immunity
Dave,I'm mystified by Jon Urdan's comment that the retroactivity immunity provision of the Senate bill "merely prevents public interest and class-action lawyers from pursuing legal fees." As you'll see below, it tries to create a short-cut to dismissing the cases entirely.
It's set up so that the AG need only give the court a piece of paper saying:
-- the activity involved fighting terrorism between 9/11 and 1/17/07-- the exec branch gave the telco a piece of paper saying that the President authorized the activity and it was "determined to be lawful."
Here's the text of the provision (Sec. 202(a)(1)):"Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a covered civil action shall not lie or be maintained in a Federal or State court, and shall be promptly dismissed, if the Attorney General certifies to the court that- (A) the assistance alleged to have been provided by the electronic communication service provider was- (i) in connection with an intelligence activity involving communications that was- (I) authorized by the President during the period beginning on September 11, 2001, and ending on January 17, 2007; and (II) designed to detect or prevent a terrorist attack, or activities in preparation for a terrorist attack, against the United States; and (ii) described in a written request or directive from the Attorney General or the head of an element of the intelligence community (or the deputy of such person) to the electronic communication service provider indicating that the activity was-
(I) authorized by the President; and (II) determined to be lawful; or(B) the electronic communication service provider did not provide the alleged assistance."
The court may only review the AG certification "for abuse of discretion." Sec. 202(a)(2). Whatever that means.
Lee.PS We should all remember that there's a similar prospective immunity provision (Sec 203) with the same kind of procedure.
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