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more on Tazer at UCLA
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:56:19 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: November 17, 2006 10:48:01 AM EST To: dave () farber net Cc: lauren () vortex com Subject: Re: [IP] more on Tazer at UCLA Dave, It is impossible to postulate, either based on the UCPD's own statements or the available video, any reasonable basis for the use of the Tazer in this situation. There is no evidence that the student -- who had a right to be in the library, and was only being ejected for lack of complying with the "Achtung, show us your papers!" demand, was a threat to anybody. Witnesses suggest that he was in the process of leaving when he was tasered. I can't help but wonder if the student's reported Iranian background was a contributing factor to this. Would the UCPD have been as fast to taser a blonde-haired, blue-eyed, female student who behaved in a similarly non-violent fashion? Many police agencies have become enamored of the tazer as a control shortcut -- even using it on children in some well-documented situations. Tazer-induced deaths have been piling up and it's a popular torture device around the world. As a UCLA alumni myself, who remembers how the UCPD would overreact even back when I was there in the '70s, my advice to current UCLA students would be, "watch your back." --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () vortex com or lauren () pfir org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, IOIC - International Open Internet Coalition - http://www.ioic.net Founder, CIFIP - California Initiative For Internet Privacy - http://www.cifip.org Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com DayThink: http://daythink.vortex.com - - -
Begin forwarded message: From: Jacob Appelbaum <jacob () appelbaum net> Date: November 16, 2006 6:48:18 PM EST To: dave () farber net Cc: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joehall () gmail com> Subject: Re: [IP] Tazer at UCLA The media office apparently gave me an email address that bounced (chancellor.ponet () ucla edu), so I've included a different one in this email. David Farber wrote:Requested anonymity Begin forwarded message: For IP, what appears to be an outrageous use of a "tazer" against a proposed UCLA student in Powell. YouTube Video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyvrqcxNIFs UCLA's response: http://newsroom.ucla.edu/page.asp?RelNum=7513 Obviously a lot of unanswered questions here, but troubling none the less.I called UCLA ( media relations office - +1-310-825-2585 ) and they pointed me to a press release by the police themselves: http://www.ucpd.ucla.edu/ucpd/zippdf/2006/Taser%2011-15-06.pdf When I voiced my concern about how the student was treated and that I felt the officers should be dismissed, I was informed that it would be prudent to write the UCLA chancellor (chancellor () conet ucla edu ). Regards, Jacob Appelbaum ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lauren () pfir org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ipArchives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- people/
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