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more on Secret U.S. Program Tracks Global Bank Transfers


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:37:23 -0400



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From: Tom Goltz <tgoltz () QuietSoftware com>
Date: June 23, 2006 2:18:19 PM EDT
To: h_bray () globe com
Cc: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] more on Secret U.S. Program Tracks Global Bank Transfers

At 11:37 AM 6/23/2006, Hiawatha Bray wrote:
Once again, a secret intelligence program during wartime has been
exposed.

Do these guys actually want us to win?

I think they do want us to win, but they also want us to still be a free and open society.

The issue of the SWIFT transaction database goes straight to the core of the privacy debate. Should the government have the right to obtain our most personal information at will? If it does, who is going to provide the oversight of the government to ensure that access is not mis-used or abused?

The Times article raised some very important issues. It mentions that the searchable database of the SWIFT transactions is under the control of the government, and resides on government computers. As far as I can tell, there are NO effective controls to prevent mis-use of the database for investigations or even witch-hunts beyond the scope of investigating or preventing terrorism. SWIFT's claim that they monitor all searches and queries of the database is utter nonsense...unless the computer that holds the database is physically guarded 24x7 by their people, and SWIFT's people have the only administrator privileges on the equipment housing the database, I can think of at least a dozen different ways that the government could make improper use of the database and SWIFT WOULD NEVER KNOW.

ANY free and open society operates at a significant disadvantage when facing an opponent that operates clandestinely. I do not believe that we need to or should sacrifice freedom and openness to fight terrorism. I am MUCH more afraid of secret Star Chamber "justice" by my own government than I am of being harmed by terrorists.




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