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From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 06:35:13 -0500



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Subject: Re: [IP] mo Plug-In Internet Connection to Get Test on Long Island
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:51:32 -0500
From: Dave Goldblatt <daveg () psyton com>
To: dave () farber net
References: <4401F532.2060801 () farber net>


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Subject: RE: [IP] Plug-In Internet Connection to Get Test on Long Island]
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:08:29 -0500
From: Bob Frankston <Bob2-19-0501 () bobf frankston com>
To: dave () farber net, ip () v2 listbox com
CC: 'Dewayne Hendricks' <dewayne () warpspeed com>

This snippet (or LIPA) seems to confuse connectivity via the power lines to
the house and the technologies for the power lines within the house. They
are very different and essentially unrelated.

BPL is about using the long runs of the power lines and getting past
transformers but sometimes it's just about rights of way and the use of
fiber or other technology.
  
No, "Broadband over Power Lines", aka PLC (Power Line Communication)
does indeed refer to using medium- and low-voltage power lines for
providing a data path.   There are various mechanisms of using those
lines; some versions are power line end-to-end from the substation to
the customer's outlet, others use medium voltage for the backbone and
WiFi for end-user access, and another uses licensed radio spectrum for
the backbone and low-voltage lines for the end-user.

LIPA is not confusing the technology - you can read the RFP at
http://www.lipower.org/papers/rfp/bpl.html - it's quite specific as to
what they want.
Power line within the house is something entirely different and there are
some competing technologies including one going 200mbps. One can use BPL to
the home and the wireless within or FTTH and then power line within the
home. So far the within home power line products have not fared well
against 802.11.

  
Again, I'm not sure why you believe that communication within the house
(aka in-home BPL) and access BPL (that using the utility's medium- and
low-voltage lines) are entirely different - they can use different
protocols, but not necessarily.   For example, DS2 provides a 200Mb
solution which is used for both types of deployment.  HomePlug is
developing a similar product.

BPL has a different set of issues than 802.11 - some better, some worse,
but definitely different.

There are several standardization efforts underway - UPA, OPERA,
HomePlug, and IEEE to name a few.  What was it Andy Tanenbaum said about
standards... ?

ObDisclaimer: My employer manufactures access BPL equipment.

-dg-



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