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more on Ban planned on imports of Japanese CDs
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:46:59 -0500
Delivered-To: dfarber+ () ux13 sp cs cmu edu Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:39:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Matthew Gream <matthew.gream () pobox com> Subject: Re: [IP] Ban planned on imports of Japanese CDs To: dave () farber net With regard to CD-Now, foreign imports: The UK Copyright Designs and Patents Act (CDPA) 1988, along with a number of EU decisions on exhaustion of rights (mostly wrt. trade marks) seemed to have set a clear precedent for making CD-Now's activites an infringement of copyright. I could never understand how CD-Now thought that they were going to succeed with their business model - comments by a seasons IPR expert would be welcome. The following action after the original case suggests that they were able to re-source from within the EU at the same price anyway: ''The British Phonographic Industry (BPI) has won an injunction ordering Internet retailer CD Wow to drop claims that it had been forced by the UK record industry to raise CD prices. At a hearing yesterday CD Wow's barrister "agreed with the Judge that CD Wow had not had to increase prices and that whether or not CD Wow charged more for CDs was a matter for the internet retailer alone," the BPI said in a statement. The BPI is the main trade association for the UK's record business. Last month CD Wow stopped selling CDs imported from Hong Kong, following an out-of-court settlement with the BPI. The company raised CD prices by £2 to £10.99, as a consequence. But yesterday, Feb 3, it reduced prices back again to £8.99. In an email to customers, the etailer said: We've been working our little cotton socks off to source our chart albums within the EU at the lowest possible price and cutting our margins even more. There have been a few cutbacks in the office, I'm working out of the YMCA and using an etch-a-sketch as my PC was sold.'' (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/35335.html) Looking at the CDPA 1988, we observe: ''22. The copyright in a work is infringed by a person who, without the licence of the copyright owner, imports into the United Kingdom, otherwise than for his private and domestic use, an article which is, and which he knows or has reason to believe is, an infringing copy of the work.'' (http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880048_en_1.htm [nb: non consolidated version]) This suggests that - private individuals ordering with foreign retailers, where the point of sale is in the foreign territory, are okay; and if the foreign retailer does not actively sell into the local market, but only passively fulfills orders, then this unlikely to cause liability for the foreign retailer. - private carrying of counterfeit and otherwise infringing goods back into the UK through customs seems to be safe, (did you recently enjoy a vacation in a dubious jurisdiction - with the fringe benefit that your DVD library is now 5 times larger ?). With respect to the Amazon actions: it seems likely Amazon US is safe so long as it satisfies the non-active selling requirement, so private UK residents could order from Amazon US safely. However, this is subject to any contractual export restrictions imposed upon Amazon US by the copyright owners in the US, which could cause liability for the retailer. I don't know whether there are any antitrust issues in such export restraints. It is likely that Amazon UK would be at fault if it were engaging in a CD-Now style business model, but I'm guessing that the lack of high profile case against them means that they are doing the right thing. As a consumer, I don't like to pay for higher priced goods than I have to, and don't like any exploitative territorial pricing, yet as a professional I do see why these import restrictions are necessary for the copyright holders in absence of effective international enforcement. Quite simply: if there were no import controls, then how could I as a UK copyright holder enforce my rights against a foreign counterfeiter who is doing a great trade producing and shipping commercial quantities of my works back into the UK. With import restrictions I can. You have strong guarantees (even if they are not always the right guarantees :-)) regarding enforcement within your own jurisdiction, but much weaker when you try to pursue enforcement in another country when even the officials in that country may be co-opting or turning a blind eye to the activities. The EU competition authorities have set precedent for analysing these sorts of territorial pricing restrictions in the case of EU member states. In a case on the price of bananas that differed substantially between EU member states, the authorities undertook quite a detailed unit cost analysis to understand how the retailer could justify the pricing differential: if it can't be fairly justified according to economic factors, then there may be a problem. The authorities don't always get it right, and the courts have ruled against the authorities at times. The intention is to prevent abusive pricing practices. Now that's all fine and dandy within the EU because the authorities can act with the backing of the judicial system. On an international scale, I'd be interested to know what the story is. Matthew Dave Farber said: > Books next (textbooks) djf > > > Delivered-To: dfarber+ () ux13 sp cs cmu edu > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 23:25:14 -0300 > From: Claudio Gutierrez <cgutierrez () improvement cl> > Subject: Re: [IP] Ban planned on imports of Japanese CDs > To: dave () farber net > >>This is the "intellectual property strategy" of Japan. > > also of the UK: > > CD settlement forces prices up...CD-Wow! had been accused of violating > UK copyright law by importing cheaper CDs from outside Europe to the UK. > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3416437.stm > > Online retailer Amazon is being investigated by the British record > industry in a probe into cheap CDs....."If we find a net retailer is > importing music from outside Europe, then they are infringing copyright > law." > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3380307.stm > > > > ------------------------------------- > You are subscribed as matthew.gream () pobox com > To manage your subscription, go to > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip > > Archives at: > http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ > > -- Matthew Gream matthew.gream () pobox com http://matthewgream.net ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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