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Some 'Sea Turtles' Find Foreign Degrees Don't Float in China


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 08:37:52 -0400

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Some 'Sea Turtles' Find Foreign Degrees Don't Float in China
Graduates return to find intense competition, low wages and a distaste for their Western attitude.


By John M. Glionna, Times Staff Writer


BEIJING — Kevin Wang was set to take the Chinese job market by storm.

Fluent in English and armed with an MBA from the University of Wisconsin, he returned here after four years abroad, confident that his foreign degree would pay instant dividends in China's booming economy.

...Over the last two decades, 600,000 mainland Chinese have left to study abroad and 160,000, lured by stories of quick employment and fast money, have returned in search of work, government officials estimate.

...But many have been so unsuccessful at finding work that they've earned a new nickname: seaweed, based on a double entendre that also means "returned from overseas and waiting for a job."

...Many sea turtles find that their homegrown counterparts have improved English skills, making them more competitive in an international marketplace where the ability to communicate with Westerners is always in demand.

Their absence also often costs them valuable insight into the ever-changing Chinese marketplace: New terminology, new industries and, in Beijing, new business communities have emerged just in the last two years.

The result: Although many of their fellow graduates who remain in the United States, Europe or Australia are getting comparatively hefty salaries, some sea turtles have taken jobs that pay less than $4,000 a year.

...Beijing headhunter Sunny Yang knows a returning student who became so frustrated that she lowered her salary requirement to just $1,200 a year — poverty wages, even in Beijing — just to get an offer.

...Andrew Tsui, Hong Kong managing director for Korn/Ferry International, an executive search company, said many sea turtles who land jobs make the mistake of trying to show up their domestic colleagues.

"They go off to these exotic places and learn all these new ideas, so when they return, they want to prove they're better trained and more competent than people who never left home," he said.

...Some sea turtles say they are not given credit for the expense and hardships they endured to get a foreign education.

...Universities in the United States and Europe teach students to become outspoken and aggressive as individuals, traits that are not well received in China, they say.

...After receiving his undergraduate degree in China, he spent two years at Leeds University in England earning master's degrees in information systems and human resource management. <http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg- seaturtles8aug08.story>

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