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IP: Re: Tech Workers' Stock Options Turn Into Tax Nightmares:


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:38:14 -0400



Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:33:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vinod Valloppillil <vinod () vinod co

Dave,

I can give you a lot of "in the trenches" examples of this one.  I've got
friends who are mortgaging houses, selling cars, and carving out an extra
grand or two from their monthly salaries due to AMT nightmares.  And
they're the lucky ones since these guys are generally older and therefore
more likely to have hard assets to leverage.

The people who are really screwed here are the 20-somethings who exercised
some options but then never touched 'em.  I can't emphasize enough that
these aren't people driving Ferrari's but are instead individuals renting
tiny studio apartments, driving used cars, and generally squeaking by on
what most would consider a middle class lifestyle.

They've suddenly got a tax bill that's not just bigger than their current
stock value but also bigger than the sum of all salary they've made in
their lifetimes.

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Vinod Valloppillil                               vinod () vinod com
                     http://www.vinod.com

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, David Farber wrote:


Los Angeles Times (04/13/01) P. A1; Weston, Liz Pulliam; Huffstutter, 
P.J.;
Healey, Jon

Tech workers who exercised stock options last year but did not sell them
have seen the value of their shares plummet. Still, according to tax law,
they have to pay taxes on the unrealized paper profits. Some tech 
employees
are being saddled with millions of dollars in taxes that they have no way
to pay. Jeffery Chou, a Cisco engineer, purchased 100,000 Cisco shares in
March 2000 for 5 cents to 10 cents apiece. At that time, Cisco was trading
above $60, meaning that Chou made an unrealized taxable profit of $1.8
million.

Additionally, he bought the shares under an incentive option plan that
encourages people to hold on to their stocks for at least one year instead
of selling them immediately. The IRS allows employees who buy under
incentive plans to sell their stock by Dec. 31 and pay only the actual
profit, instead of the paper one. However, Chou, and many like him, missed
the deadline and never considered the situation he is until now. He says
his entire net worth still leaves him $700,000 short of his tax bill and
protracted negotiations with the IRS will leave his family in financial
limbo. For many of these workers, filing bankruptcy is not an option
because recent tax debt is exempt from Chapter 7 coverage. Their only hope
seems to be legislation pursued by Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), whose
constituency includes part of Silicon Valley. His bill would alleviate at
least some of the burden for those who bought stock under the incentive
options plan.

http://www.latimes.com/business/cutting/lat_option010413.htm



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