Re: Web Defacement

["Alberto Cozer" <acozer () fti com br>]

Although we do not have laws regarding specifically "hacking
activities" in Brazil, we do have laws against break-ins, information
theft and information damage. Of course no one will be prosecuted if
your website was defaced but if you can prove that this defacement has
been the cause of financial losses for your company you can suit the
hacker that have defaced your website in order to make he pay for it.

The main problem in a lawsuit regarding hacking activities is making
the court accept the evidences. Logs can be forged.

Best regards,

Alberto.

Alberto Cozer
Security Outsource Manager, Future Technologies Digital Security
IBM Certified AIX System Specialist
Checkpoint Certified Security Expert, CCSE NG
acozer () fti com br
http://www.fti.com.br



                                                                                                                        
                  
                      Ricardo Castanho de                                                                               
                  
                      Oliveira Freitas            To:       Michel Angelo da Silva Pereira <michelpereira () netsite 
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On Qui 13 Fev 2003 20:58, Michel Angelo da Silva Pereira wrote:

Sorry to correct you but... being Brazilian also... I think I can!

(being a ex- LDP-br translator I can tell that!)

The original translation for the word "porra" is correct! Don't forget
the
context!

Your translation will work out as an interjection, like those that you
say
when you step on dog "doo-doo" (easily found on streets! ;-)

Your mileage may vary, though! ;-)

So, the defacer's English is right!   Not his behaviour though....

According to our legislation the great difference is that we don't
"need" to
have a specific law for electronic crimes, the closest match will do!
As well as jurisprudence! Which at times is much 'stronger than the
law"

Meanwhile.... our legislators are working on a "more specific"  code!

As long damage (of any kind) and losses are implied... the "generic
code"
(law).... will do the job!

IANAL, though!

regards,

Ricardo Castanho

> Here on Brazil we dosen't have laws about hacking, there is one
project
> on our congress to be approved, only problems with Credit Cards are
more
> investigated.
>            And the translation of the word "porra" is "shit" on
Brazil.
> Bye
> HggdH wrote:
> > "Esteve Aqui" means "Was Here".
> > I did a quick search on them, and found
> > http://www.brunopr.hpg.ig.com.br/index.htm, which might be Cybers
Satans
> > home page. I did not go deep -- it runs ActiveX (and I don't), but
the
> > "Guest Book" has, as first entry "Sat4an1c Br41n". There it is
said
> > he/she is 15 years old, and that he/she is the author of the web
("foi eu
> > que criei porra!" -- "was I that created dammit"). As far as I can
> > remember, the verb is slightly wrong...
> > Now, since it seems this web page is part of a free service
provided by
> > www.hpg.ig.com.br, then you have one more Id to complain about --
> > brunopr () hpg ig com br.
> > Other entries show what might be a list of hacked pages, mostly
.gov.xx.
> > It is highly possible he/she is indeed 15 years old -- leaving
traces
> > everywhere, valid e-mail addresses, etc. I do not know about
Brazil's
> > laws on hacking, thou.
> > ..hggdh..

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