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Re: Scanning. Is it dangerous?


From: sec () ORGONE NEGATION NET (jms)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 19:11:55 -0700


two cents:

back during the Great Irc Wars, i used to watch people spoof
strobes to IrcOppers boxes on undernet.

then, about 10 seconds later, you would see the user whose host was
spoofed sign off with messages like "DO *NOT* ABUSE MY NETWORK, AND KISS
YOUR ACCOUNT GOODBYE; I KNOW YOUR PROVIDERS ADMINS PERSONALLY" as a
furious opper banned him from the network.

what im getting at;

contacting an upstream about a strobe may not be such a bad idea if the
upstream has an even keel.  but with so many isp's thinking they are doing
the world a great service with their zero tolerance attitudes, the
potential for abuse is *enormous*.

so yeah, i think strobes should be considered a bad thing, but as long as
people can spoof traffic, i think strobes should be viewed as a reason for
raised eyebrows, not the prelude to a panicked call to an upstream.

like i said, my 2 cents.

-jason storm
 negation industries


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