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Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ...
From: Dan White <dwhite () olp net>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 08:42:46 -0600
On 02/04/13 18:28 -0500, Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
I've seen calls for direct democracy as a replacement for representative government. There is a serious danger in that, and that is tyranny of a majority. Look at Uganda's recent "kill the gays" bill - can we really be sure that even something as malicious as that couldn't pass here with Faux News cheerleading it on? Whatever may take the place of congress in the future, we do have to be mindful of the "dark side" of democracy - I mean, even in our own history we once thought slavery and alcohol prohibition were good ideas...
As far as I can tell, we have 0% direct democracy at the federal level in the US. We have no legal path to petitioning the government to impeach federal employee, change law, or to change the constitution. All those functions are held by representative power (this is not true at the state level, for many states). I do not fear the tyranny of the majority. I believe when push comes to shove that people will make their own selfish decisions, for the betterment of themselves and their own families. Conflict is not a bad thing, only poorly executed conflict resolution. Our current system leads to poor conflict resolution and too many losers, since too many decisions are made at the federal level. I would expect direct democracy (that is, voting on congressional bills by a direct vote of the people) would lead to: 1) no big changes gaining much consensus and 2) decisions getting pushed down toward the local level where they belong (and where there are fewer losers). The only way to take money and power grabbing away from congress is to castrate them. There are checks against tyranny. We have the constitution and the court system to hold it in check. -- Dan White _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Dan White (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Dan White (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) (Feb 04)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... John Bambenek (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Paul Ferguson (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... John Bambenek (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Paul Ferguson (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... John Bambenek (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) (Feb 05)
- Re: I'll believe corporations are people when they let them drive in the HOV lane ... Jeffrey Walton (Feb 02)
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