Re: Twinkipocalypse averted

["Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)" <michael.blanchard () emc com>]

You see though… I don’t care how big of a raise the CEO got, as that contributes to the high cost of Hostess as well….  
but the UNION demanded pay contracts contribute more to the final price of the items….

 Both those items will cause a company to go bankrupt, as Hostess has done…  the final straw that caused them to close 
the doors was the Union wanting to go on strike, even though the owners said “go on strike and we’ll shut the place 
down and lock the doors”….  They even gave them 2 days of strike I believe before drawing a line in the sand “ 5pm 
today if you’re still on strike we shut down for good”….   The arrogance of the union cause the demise of Hostess…  ALL 
unions are the same, they are no longer needed and should be removed completely….  Let free enterprise dictate 
survival….

Little Debbie is a perfect example… no unions, better management solutions…  lower costs to the end consumer…. THEY’RE 
still in business and Hostess with BIG unions, and fairly poor management caused them to go bankrupt….

 You know what else, I’d flip my middle finger to any government official that mandates that I arbitrate with anyone to 
keep my company open…. It’s MY company, Fuck the government telling me that I have to negotiate with anyone…  I set my 
rules in MY company, if people don’t like it tough shit, they can work somewhere else…. If I want to shut down MY 
company the government (national or local) has no right to mandate I keep my doors open…
   Contracts with the workers are a different story, if I had one with them, I’d invoke the buy out clause in their 
contract and then close my doors…..

 Other than that I have no opinion on the subject  ☺

Michael P. Blanchard
Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE
Office of Information Security & Risk Management
EMC ² Corporation
32 Coslin Drive
Southboro, MA 01772

From: Stephanie Daugherty [mailto:sdaugherty () gmail com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:48 AM
To: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
Cc: rmslade () shaw ca; funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [funsec] Twinkipocalypse averted

Not sure exactly how much of the fault can be placed on the union here. Union also previously accepted pay cuts and 
benefit cuts at the same time that upper management salaries rose exponentially - I can see why they'd be willing to 
play chicken when the last time the "we're going to go out of business if we don't cut pay" card was played the CEO got 
a huge raise. Management also looted profits while building up debt.

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/20/vulture_capitalism_not_unions_killed_twinkies/

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) <michael.blanchard () emc com<mailto:michael.blanchard 
() emc com>> wrote:
You know what, I kinda want Hostess to completely go out of business....  just so they can say a big F.U. to the union 
and the arrogance that they have....

 Little Debbie can buy the Twinkie and Ho-Ho's and Funny Bonez rights and produce them at half the price because 
they're a non-union shop!

Michael P. Blanchard
Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE
Office of Information Security & Risk Management
EMC ² Corporation
32 Coslin Drive
Southboro, MA 01772


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Subject: [funsec] Twinkipocalypse averted

Apparently, Hostess and the union have agreed to mediation, so the end of the
world is not yet.

(Honestly, when was the last time you ate a Twinkie?  Come to think of it, I don't
believe I ever *have* eaten a Twinkie ...)

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