Re: 95% of User Generated Content is spam or malicious

["Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>]

Given the % of traffic that is SPAM, which translates into direct $, I'm not sure you can say it's been "won" or that 
the end users aren't' feeling pain. They just feel it in their wallets, as opposed to their inboxes.

I know, it's shameless, but I have to feed my kids, and I'm not lying: using ThreatSTOP on the firewall turns the 
asymmetric advantage the bot-using spammer has in favor of the defender, and saves bandwidth and network upgrade costs. 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
> On Behalf Of Dan Kaminsky
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 9:16 PM
> To: Drsolly
> Cc: funsec () linuxbox org; Rich Kulawiec
> Subject: Re: [funsec] 95% of User Generated Content is spam or
> malicious
>
> My sense is that SPAM filtering is ghettoizing, i.e. there's a very
> small community of extraordinarily miserable people whose job it now
> is to deal with SPAM for the rest of their users.  They've been so
> successful, even at 98%, that now users have NO tolerance for SPAM.
> In other words, the SPAM war appears to be won, nobody seems to know
> it's still being fought.
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:
> > Yes, I'm currently seeing about 98% spam. At what percentage does
> email
> > become useless?
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Robert Portvliet wrote:
> >
> > > It's sad that we are unable to even make a dent in solving this
> problem.
> > > Added together, the bandwidth & capacity wasted by all this junk
> must be
> > > staggering.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 05:57:45PM -0500, Robert Portvliet wrote:
> > > > > According the Websense Security Labs 'state of Internet security
> report'
> > > > 95%
> > > > > of User Generated Content is spam or malicious & 85% of all
> email is
> > > > spam.
> > > >
> > > > 85% is way too low.  Plausible numbers are in the 96-98% range.
> > > >
> > > > ---Rsk
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