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Re: big brother at school


From: Dave Paris <dparis () w3works com>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:35:10 -0500

'In loco parentis', when the child is *in* the home, is gonna hold water 
like a sieve.  Apparently this is a fairly well-off school district 
which can afford to give every one of their 1800 high-schoolers a 
laptop.  The school district is going to be a smoldering hole when this 
suit is done and that Vice Principal won't be able to find his ass with 
both hands, a flashlight, a map, *and* GPS unit. (although I suspect 
this person is already of sufficiently challenged thought process where 
this may already be the case).

Benjamin Brown wrote:
Just something to chew on: A number of court decisions (press me harder and
I can search for the titles) rule in favor of the administration of public
schools in cases that would have otherwise been seen a pure violation of a
student's rights. These cases often invoke an argument of *In loco
parentis*for the administration. Though in every case I have read the
rulings
concerned actions taken on school grounds or within close proximity. This
case involves school property (the laptop), but occurs at the students home.
I am curious how this shakes out and what the court ruling (and inevitable
appeal ruling) will say.

My 2 dinars  =)
-Ben

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon &
Hannah <rMslade () shaw ca> wrote:

Date sent:              Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:28:13 -0600
From:                   RandallM <randallm () fidmail com>

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.html
and

http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/02/18/24789.htm

"A federal class action claims a suburban school district has been spying
on
students and families through the "indiscriminant use of and ability to
remotely
activate the webcams incorporated into each laptop issued to students,"
without
the knowledge or consent of students or parents. The named plaintiffs say
they
learned that Big Brother was in their home when an assistant principal told
their
son that the school district knew he `was engaged in improper behavior in
his
home, and cited as evidence a photograph from the webcam embedded in minor
plaintiff's personal laptop issued by the school district.'"

Always possible that the allegations are wrong or overstated, but, on the
face of it,
sounds like this school district could be in very serious trouble ...

(Cue comments about protecting children, and being willing to give up
personal
freedoms for a worthy cause, etc ... )

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