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Re: big brother at school


From: Benjamin Brown <optikali () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:06:07 -0500

I also forgot to specify that I am speaking from a United States court
system perspective.

=)

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Brown <optikali () gmail com> wrote:

Just something to chew on: A number of court decisions (press me harder and
I can search for the titles) rule in favor of the administration of public
schools in cases that would have otherwise been seen a pure violation of a
student's rights. These cases often invoke an argument of *In loco
parentis* for the administration. Though in every case I have read the
rulings concerned actions taken on school grounds or within close proximity.
This case involves school property (the laptop), but occurs at the students
home. I am curious how this shakes out and what the court ruling (and
inevitable appeal ruling) will say.

My 2 dinars  =)
-Ben


On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon &
Hannah <rMslade () shaw ca> wrote:

Date sent:              Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:28:13 -0600
From:                   RandallM <randallm () fidmail com>

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.html

and

http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/02/18/24789.htm

"A federal class action claims a suburban school district has been spying
on
students and families through the "indiscriminant use of and ability to
remotely
activate the webcams incorporated into each laptop issued to students,"
without
the knowledge or consent of students or parents. The named plaintiffs say
they
learned that Big Brother was in their home when an assistant principal
told their
son that the school district knew he `was engaged in improper behavior in
his
home, and cited as evidence a photograph from the webcam embedded in minor
plaintiff's personal laptop issued by the school district.'"

Always possible that the allegations are wrong or overstated, but, on the
face of it,
sounds like this school district could be in very serious trouble ...

(Cue comments about protecting children, and being willing to give up
personal
freedoms for a worthy cause, etc ... )

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