Re: climate gate and programming bugs

["Larry Seltzer" <larry () larryseltzer com>]

Anybody would prefer an affordable Tesla. The problem is that they're
not, and they won't be any time soon. Do you think the solution is to
make gasoline-based cars unaffordable as well?

Larry Seltzer
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
larry_seltzer () ziffdavis com 
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Collins [mailto:mcollins () aleae com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:32 PM
To: Dan Kaminsky
Cc: Larry Seltzer; funsec
Subject: Re: [funsec] climate gate and programming bugs

But it's so much more *fun* to protect current business models and  
outmoded energy production techniques rather than grab a  brave new  
future, Dan.

Seriously, I don't understand, even apart from the climate change  
issue while people are so happy to keep sending money to the  
custodians of the two shrines  and continue the operation of petroleum  
cracking plants.  Those bastards stink like three graves invading your  
nasal cavity.  I appreciate the sweet pickup of a nice V8 as the next  
man, but I'll happily buy a Tesla when they're affordable.



On Dec 9, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Dan Kaminsky wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Larry Seltzer  
> <larry () larryseltzer com> wrote:
> > > The reality is that for a whole bunch of reasons, a lot of stuff  
> just isn't available.  If you want it, if you want to reimplement  
> it, you get documentation in the form of a paper showing how to  
> achieve what is claimed.  Is the paper enough?  Sometimes it is,  
> yeah.  But always?  Even often?  No, not at all.
>
> That's as may be. If we're expected to impose massive taxes and  
> regulations on the economy based on this supposedly settled science  
> we need to expect more in the way of proof.
>
>
>
>
> It's a talking point.  Delay, delay, delay, ignore reality when it's  
> inconvenient.
>
> The scientific consensus around climate change is *overwhelming*.
>
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