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Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate!
From: RandallM <randallm () fidmail com>
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:07:38 -0600
------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:17:47 -0500 From: "Larry Seltzer" <larry () larryseltzer com> Subject: Re: [funsec] Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! To: "Gadi Evron" <ge () linuxbox org>, "funsec" <funsec () linuxbox org> Message-ID: <9B9E7EA67E1B1342B2D25F3FD1B3293002F618EF () BE35 exg3 exghost com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'll take a stab at actually answering the question: Yes, absolutely it was justified to leak these e-mails because the implications of this issue are huge for the economy and the livelihood of millions. Some people may think that the science is settled and any questions are trivia but not everyone thinks that way and there are experts in the field among them. We read of these experts and efforts to suppress their opinions in the e-mails and we read of efforts to cook the data in them. We're being asked to impose what are, in effect, huge taxes on the economy with this science given as a justification. We're entitled to a full examination of the science and how it was approached and these e-mails are revealing in that regard. Larry Seltzer Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larry_seltzer () ziffdavis com http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ PS - If you haven't guessed it already, I think that climate science is largely full of crap. Put aside for the minute that the models can't explain why we've had *cooling* for the last 10 years; why would you think that you can look at ice cores and use them to recreate temperatures to within fractions of a degree? You can only prove the accuracy of such methods by comparing them with actual temperatures and, of course, we can't do that. I've had the sense for a long time that these guys know a whole lot less about this stuff than they claim to. ------------------------------
Gosh Larry, that makes you "subhuman"
I look down with contempt on the inferior creatures who are dumb enough to fall for this denialist nonsense. They belong with the creationists, the flat-earthers, and other subhuman primates who lack the intelligence required for classication as "homo sapiens". Perhaps they should consult their horoscopes, or have their fortunes read, or worship their laughable gods, instead of concerning themselves with matters far beyond their pitifully feeble intellects. ---Rsk
-- been great, thanks a.k.a System _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate!, (continued)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! Greg Slade (Nov 27)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! Ned Fleming (Nov 26)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! Larry Seltzer (Nov 27)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 27)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! Martin Tomasek (Nov 27)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 27)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! Martin Tomasek (Nov 27)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Nov 27)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 27)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! Ned Fleming (Nov 27)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! RandallM (Nov 26)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! RandallM (Nov 27)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! RandallM (Nov 27)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! David Lodge (Nov 27)
- Re: Was the ClimateGate Hacker Justified? Join the Debate! RandallM (Nov 28)