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Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:16:07 +1200
Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
This is, like so much else, hyperbolic and completely exaggerates the science. "The End of the Line" is as factual as "An Inconvenient Truth", meaning not very, and where It has facts, it uses them selectively, and takes the data to its most extreme conclusion.
Yet most of the "worst case" models you suggest that Inconvenient Truth's most dire "predictions" are based on are now quite old and have mostly been overtaken by more recent data showing that the earlier worst case scenarios were actually quite optimisitic.
In CA, we aren't the generation that ends the fish. Our fish stocks, in may species (Giant Sea bass for one), are coming back. We're also in the middle of implementing the Marine Life Protection Act to create preserves where fish can breed, to add to the extensive network already in place on the channel islands, Farallons, and in the central coast.
Oh fabulous -- the Californians are going to save the oceans...
However, those on the other side of the Pacific can't seem to be persuaded. ...
I think NZ and Oz have some similar, equally tokenistic, developments under way...
... Once again, preaching to the converted. I'm a diver and sportfisherman (mostly catch and release, except for enough for that day's dinner).
As you say though, the problem is all those stupid people who don't accept your view of things. How do we get those idiots to not only fix their own excesses but reverse them and stop making things worse for the rest of us who actually get it? Oh, wait -- that's not a valid question in your world view. I guess we should just let them keep on doing what they need to... And as the ocean currents and associated weather patterns change, the current soot and pollution fallout from China that the US NW is "enjoying" will both increase and likely "sink" further south, maybe even to your beloved CA... Regards, Nick FitzGerald _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers der Mouse (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers der Mouse (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Dan Kaminsky (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Nick FitzGerald (Jul 24)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers der Mouse (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers John C. A. Bambenek, GCIH, CISSP (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Nick FitzGerald (Jul 22)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Nick FitzGerald (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Rich Kulawiec (Aug 03)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Jon Kibler (Jul 23)