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Re: The PCI sky *isn't* falling!


From: Jon Kibler <Jon.Kibler () aset com>
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:30:54 -0400

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Todd Parker wrote:
The dirty secret PCI is trying to hide, is that much of the information
flying on their clients networks is cleartext. I've been inside some of
those networks, and was appalled.

I have done incident response after breaches on a couple very large
etailers. I have found firewalls that allow everything outbound, most
stuff inbound, Internet facing Cisco devices with the login 'cisco
cisco' still enabled on the device (I would bet that about 10% to 15% of
all newer cisco devices still have this default local login enabled!), I
have found BIND 4.x name servers running on Internet facing firewalls,
and like Todd -- clear text everywhere, and on and on I could go.

PCI is 110% joke. Security theater at its absolute complete worst!

Still worse, most auditors are clueless. They take the PCI auditing
course and hang out their shingle as a PCI auditor. All they know how to
do is to check the check boxes on the list. (I know of one organization
that had a label "FIREWALL" covering the Dell logo on a server, and that
got them an automatic check on the PCI audit for having a firewall.) PCI
DSS is a complete joke! There are even pen testing firms that will
guarantee you a pass for PCI compliance. The whole process is pure
security theater. It is sickening -- absolutely sickening.

At least, that is my $0.02 worth.

Jon K
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Chief Technical Officer
Advanced Systems Engineering Technology, Inc.
Charleston, SC  USA
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