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Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag


From: Paul Vixie <vixie () isc org>
Date: 03 Feb 2008 07:16:32 +0000

dudevanwinkle () gmail com ("Dude VanWinkle") writes:

On Jan 30, 2008 7:17 PM, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Dude VanWinkle wrote:

Do all AV companies pay Dr. Solly for "checking code for malicious
activity"?

No, because I was too stupid to patent it.

I would front some bucks if you were willing to file a patent on AVAS so
we could force douchebags like TM to just let people be. Otherwise we you
could make enforcers of bad patents pay you a royalty for being heavy
handed and you could turn around and donate to people trying to scan
FTP/SMTP and offset the bucks they had to pay to TM

i don't think the patent system, fscked up though it is, allows for a late
patent on something that's already in common use.

noting that the first reduction to practice of "method of publishing and
determining data concerning reputation of internet hosts by real time
domain name system transactions" was by an employee of vixie enterprises
(eric ziegast, by name), who had assigned his IPR and invention rights to
the company, and that no vixie enterprises IPR was ever assigned to MAPS, i
think that leaves me as sole proprietor of the IPR used by all RBL's in the
world today.  there's probably a separate innovation in the original RBL
itself ("method of publishing and determining internet host reputation data
using link state routing protocols").

what a hoot.  i'd be like the road reflector guy, or the post-it (tm) guy.
(or, trend would sue me to the wall over some extra comma in some asset
transfer agreement and somehow get the IPR away from me somehow and end up
being able to lord an RBL patent over the whole reputation industry.  this
sounds like a dangerous game, to me.)

lemme know, I got 50k on it

i'd love to learn that it's not to late to patent the ideas of an RBL (in my
case) or AVAS (in drsolly's case) but i really don't think the patent system
works like that.  is anybody an actual patent lawyer around here?
-- 
Paul Vixie
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