RE: What Happened to The 56 Men Who Signed theDeclarationofIndependence ?

["Stephen P. Villano" <stephen.villano () us army mil>]

It may sound cruel, but frankly I would rather that your ancestors DID
participate. It would give a personal, visceral feeling to the errors long
past.
However, remember this: YOU were not responsible. Those in the past were,
though they felt what the did was the right thing to do, history has proven
then incorrect.
As such, one would expect that one would go on with life, try to make things
a little better for those living in current times and those to come. Pass on
the painful lesson to one's offspring with the same message and wishes.

On my mother's side of the family, I've learned that she was descended from
the Reynolds family. While there is a lot of family history to go along with
this, suffice it to say that her mother's honorable consideration to her
husband's offspring put her out from that family. Said family was well off
due, in large part to slave labor on their plantations. I've passed that
along to my two daughters, along with the lessons hard learned from history
and my wishes. I'm certain that out of two, at least one, and most likely
both will pass that hard learned lesson along to my grandchildren (whenever
they may be born.)
Along with the lesson that *ALL* guns are loaded, no matter *HOW* unloaded
the owner says the weapon is (a lesson drilled into them since they could
understand my American, error, English...)
With power comes responsibility. Whether it's the power perceived by
weaponry or by the more important weapon: Knowledge. One wields one's weapon
responsibly and only draws it with even more sacred responsibility.

OK, after 26 hours of travel/flight time, it's time to hit the hay. Besides,
as much as I'll hate myself for scheduling myself for work tomorrow, I have
work tomorrow and some training... 
My spell checker decided I was incompetent to continue...

WOW! I managed to do that LAST paragraph without a speeeling erorrrer!

-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On
Behalf Of Wayne J. Hauber
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:30 PM
To: Brian Loe; Larry Seltzer
Cc: funsec () linuxbox org; Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Subject: Re: [funsec] What Happened to The 56 Men Who Signed
theDeclarationofIndependence ?

At 08:56 AM 7/9/2007, Brian Loe wrote:
> On 7/9/07, Larry Seltzer <Larry () larryseltzer com> wrote:
> > > > > It was an act of parliament, long before your civil war.
> > >
> > > 1809 I think
> >
> > I guess I'm wrong on this. I was positive I had read 1809 at one 
> > point, but a little Googling indicates that the abolition act was 
> > passed in
> > 1833 and took effect in 1834.
>
> Wow....less than 30 years earlier than the US - with a LOT more 
> experience in such matters. Guess Solly's adopted home isn't so 
> benevolent after all....

A tidbit I learned during some geneology research...slavery in the Swabian
region of Germany was formally abolished in 1921. Apparently, children of
poor Swiss peasants were sold, marched across the Alps to work in Swabia...
So, I hope that none of my ancestors was involved :-(

See the wikipedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swabian_children

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