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Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician?
From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 10:40:05 -0500
On 8/31/07, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:
And screw the other 2... no thanks, it could be me or mine.If you can't see that a reduction of murders from 4 million to 2 million is a Good Thing, then you're in a very small minority.
If you think that 2 million dead is a good thing then I HOPE you're in the minority. Final analogy I will use on this and then, since its dwindling anyway, I'll let the thread die: There are three kinds of people in this world: sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. The vast majority of the people are sheep - and that would include virtually everyone on this list (that posts regularly anyway). Nothing bad about being a sheep, it simply means your a gentle, productive human being, incapable of hurting your fellow man. Problem is, there are wolves out there. Not a lot, a very small minority in fact. But they are out there and they show no compunction whatsoever with harming their fellow man, for whatever motive, or no motive at all. They'll kill you for a dollar or just to watch you bleed. For this reason you must have sheepdogs. I'm a sheepdog. I have the ability to commit violence but I also care for my fellow man. There are several more sheepdogs on this list who rarely chime in on these discussions, on the list, but they're out there. We're here to keep you safe, when we can, and we're a lot more effective at it than any policeman anywhere in the world. On this little list we're virtually all sheepdogs to some degree, but in the infosec arena. The end users are the sheep, the hackers the wolves and then us in the middle, watching the herd. This is why I am still amazed by the number of people on this list who are sheep when it comes to life and death. But, I'm slowly finding out that the list is a lot larger than the vocal few have lead me to believe, and I'm not even sure that a majority of subscribers aren't gun owners at this point. :) _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Aug 30)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Aug 30)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Aug 30)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Aug 30)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Aug 31)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Sep 01)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Sep 01)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Sep 04)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 04)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Sep 04)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Sep 04)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Daniel H. Renner (Sep 04)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Sep 04)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Daniel H. Renner (Sep 04)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Drsolly (Sep 04)
- Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician? Brian Loe (Sep 05)