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Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel


From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:39:51 -0500

On 5/14/07, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:

>
> The only way a cop has to know of most drunk drivers is to pull them
> over for something else. By then they've committed a crime of some
> sort

Rubbish. Someone might drive into a tree. That's not a crime. But then
if you test them for alcohol and find they're drunk, then they've been
recklessly endangering everyone around them.

So you admit that cops are only involved after the fact and therefore
the law did nothing to prevent the drunk from hitting the tree?


> You've often stated that you enjoy visiting the pub, and having good
> beer. Do you walk? Does England not have a public intoxication law? Or
> public nuisance law?

It's very simple. If I drink, then I don't drive. If I'm driving, I don't
drink. It's very simple, and very easy to do.

Easier than answering a question even, eh?

Once again, there's such a thing as recklessly endangering other people.
Getting tanked up and trying to control a ton of hurtling vehicle is just
that.

Agreed, if that's what they're doing - as observed by a copy watching
the swerve going down the road or what have you.

I suppose you'd be cool about someone firing a gun ionto a crowd of
people, provided he was lucky enough to not actually hit anyone.

No reasonable sane person would believe that one could fire a gun into
a crowd and not hurt someone. Plenty of reasonable people have gotten
behind the wheel of a car and that exactly that - and most don't hurt
people.
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