RE: AOL Charged With Blocking Opponents' e-Mail

["Larry Seltzer" <larry () larryseltzer com>]

Well this is certainly full of crap. Didn't John Dillinger rob banks? How do
we know that Goodmail won't rob banks too?

Larry Seltzer
eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
http://security.eweek.com/
http://blog.eweek.com/blogs/larry%5Fseltzer/
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
larryseltzer () ziffdavis com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Ludwig [mailto:andre.ludwig () gmail com] 
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 10:58 AM
To: Larry Seltzer
Cc: funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [funsec] AOL Charged With Blocking Opponents' e-Mail

Werent there specific requirements to sign up to get an account at certain
data clearing houses as well?

http://www.google.com/search?q=choicepoint+fake+company&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=
utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

Dre

On 4/14/06, Larry Seltzer <larry () larryseltzer com> wrote:
> You obviously haven't read how the system works. There are very 
> specific requirements for qualifying for the certification. You can't 
> just send in your check and get certified.
>
> Larry Seltzer
> eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
> http://security.eweek.com/
> http://blog.eweek.com/blogs/larry%5Fseltzer/
> Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
> larryseltzer () ziffdavis com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blanchard_Michael () emc com [mailto:Blanchard_Michael () emc com]
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 9:46 AM
> To: larry () larryseltzer com; fergdawg () netzero net; funsec () linuxbox org
> Subject: RE: [funsec] AOL Charged With Blocking Opponents' e-Mail
>
>  but what if the consumer doesn't want ANY advertisement e-mail, even 
> from those companies that have paid the toll to go through?  Maybe 
> that's why I don't have an AOL email address that I use :-)
>
>
> Hmmmm, if I was a spammer I'd be all for this system, heck I'd be very 
> happy to pay AOL to allow my spam to go through onto AOL's email users
unfiltered.
> The few thousand that they charge is sure to be a drop in the bucket 
> compared to the potential revenue....
>
>
> Michael P. Blanchard
> Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of 
> Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 4400 Computer Dr.
> Westboro, MA 01580
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] 
> On Behalf Of Larry Seltzer
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:37 PM
> To: 'Fergie'; funsec () linuxbox org
> Subject: RE: [funsec] AOL Charged With Blocking Opponents' e-Mail
>
> Ironically, this is just more evidence of the value of Goodmail. False 
> positives are inevitable in a mail system the size and complexity of
AOL's.
> Goodmail allows demonstrably reliable organizations to bypass the 
> filtering operations which cause them.
>
> Larry Seltzer
> eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
> http://security.eweek.com/
> http://blog.eweek.com/blogs/larry%5Fseltzer/
> Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
> larryseltzer () ziffdavis com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] 
> On Behalf Of Fergie
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:48 PM
> To: funsec () linuxbox org
> Subject: [funsec] AOL Charged With Blocking Opponents' e-Mail
>
> Via C|Net News.
>
> [snip]
>
> America Online on Thursday apparently began blocking subscribers from 
> sending or receiving e-mail containing the Web address of a petition 
> against the company's upcoming certified-mail program.
>
> The Internet service provider, which has roughly 20 million 
> subscribers in the United States, began bouncing e-mail communications 
> with the URL "Dearaol.com" sometime early Thursday, according to nonprofit
MoveOn.org.
> A e-mail sent by CNET News.com to an AOL.com address and containing 
> the URL "www.dearaol.com" bounced back on Thursday afternoon with a 
> system administrator note that read: "The e-mail system was unable to 
> deliver the message, but did not report a specific reason."
>
> Dearaol.com is a coalition of companies and individuals against AOL's 
> adoption of GoodMail's CertifiedEmail, an antispam program that 
> requires marketers to pay to ensure delivery of their e-mail messages 
> and circumvent spam filters. The Web site contains an open letter and 
> a petition that calls on people to protest what it calls an "e-mail 
> tax" that would inhibit the Internet's inherent free flow of information
and create a two-tiered system.
> [snip]
>
> More:
> http://news.com.com/2100-1030_3-6061089.html
>
> - ferg
>
>
> --
> "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
>  Engineering Architecture for the Internet  fergdawg () netzero net or 
> fergdawg () sbcglobal net  ferg's tech blog: 
> http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
>
>
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