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Re[2]: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad?
From: Pierre Vandevenne <pierre () datarescue com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:43:59 +0100
Good Day, DK> Curious, if after you listen to how explicit this works, how you DK> will feel then? Just a thought, indirectly related to the issue. Before 2000, the law enforcement/governmental agencies I had the opportunity to interact with struck me as being dumb, really dumb, as far the the reality of IT security was concerned - they were lost in strangely colored books, norms etc.... and didn't understand much to what was actually going on (this is not an attack on the individuals, just an appreciation of the finished product as an organization). A random pair of decent hackers could have danced around them in those days, and some actually did. The tide turned in the 2000-2003 period imho, probably because such organizations are a bit slow to react, because the younger generation who had a better grasp of the issues was obtaining positions where they could actually get things moving. I do not know. Today, I would rate the people working in those organizations as generally much better than the hacker's crowd. There are a lot of them, at least in the countries who care and... they are simply more competent. Therefore I believe they could do much better than that if they wanted. And there is of course the IT's version of Occam's proposition: don't see sophisticated malice where incompetence/oversight can explain the situation. Lastly, if that conspiration theory was true after all, would that mean that the open source windows "cloners" who replicated the mistake have sold their souls as well, just more recently? -- Best regards, Pierre mailto:pierre () datarescue com _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Don Kennedy (Jan 13)
- Re: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Jonathan Glass (Jan 13)
- RE: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Larry Seltzer (Jan 13)
- Re: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 13)
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- RE: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) (Jan 13)
- RE: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Todd Towles (Jan 13)
- RE: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Don Kennedy (Jan 13)
- Re[2]: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Pierre Vandevenne (Jan 13)
- RE: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Don Kennedy (Jan 13)
- RE: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Todd Towles (Jan 13)
- RE: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Larry Seltzer (Jan 13)
- Re: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Blue Boar (Jan 13)
- RE: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Thomas Mannfred Carlsson (Jan 13)
- RE: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Thomas Mannfred Carlsson (Jan 14)
- Re: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Gadi Evron (Jan 14)
- Re: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 14)
- Re: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Technocrat (Jan 14)
- Re: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Nick FitzGerald (Jan 14)
- Re: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Gadi Evron (Jan 15)
- RE: Is The .WMF Exploit A ConsPiracy Gone Bad? Larry Seltzer (Jan 13)