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Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran
From: Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org>
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:04:11 -0400
On 6/8/12 11:38 AM, valdis.kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:48:33 -0400, Ian Hayes said:On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:40 PM, andrew.wallace <andrew.wallace () rocketmail com> wrote:On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:43 PM, <valdis.kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:One could equally well read that as "We're fed up and about to pound North Korea even further back into the Stone Age".With Stuxnet, it was lucky nobody was seriously injured. You cannot condone such weapons Valdis, or your hat will start to turn grey, black.Stuxnet may not have killed anyone, but several Iranian nuclear scientists were assassinated in conjunction with Stuxnet's release.Please don't feed the troll - the only way he can post to full-disclosure is if somebody quotes him in. The worst part is that Andrew's reading comprehension is as good as always - I wasn't commenting on Stuxnet, but the move of naval forces to the Pacific. China isn't the only reason we might want a naval task force over there. And I never said I condoned it, merely pointed out alternate interpretations. The funny thing is that Andrew was going on for a *long* time that there is no such thing as cyber-warfare - when in fact it was going on while he was denying it. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
I think the real question we should all think on is what are we going to do about this kind of thing? Because the way I see it, the infosec industry is part of this problem until it finds a way to be a part of the solution, if you all even desire this. If you do then lets talk about finding solutions to countries using cyberwar and using innocent peoples machines to carry it out, invading peoples privacy and generally doing terrible stuff in the name of god and country. If you don't then just do us all a favor and stop calling yourself an infosec expert, stop pretending to be one of the good guys and just call yourself a mercenary and realize you are in the same class of people who assassinated civilian scientists for political reasons. I hope all that money helps you sleep at night.
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- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Laurelai (Jun 08)
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- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Григорий Братислава (Jun 08)
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- Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran Laurelai (Jun 08)
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