Re: [OT] Obama said: "American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules"

[Christian Sciberras <uuf6429 () gmail com>]

Yeah, let's just all ignore low insults. The world would be a much better
place without them and whoever said them in the first place...








On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org> wrote:

>  On 10/14/2011 2:25 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>
> Resorting to personal attacks? Nice.
>
>  Technical skills in what? Running a wordpress blog? Defacing a website?
> Growing pot?
>
>  I rarely publicise any materials, most of the time I just tell whoever is
> responsible to do a fix.
> I'm not really running after publicity, unlike you guys.
> Also note that I never said I'm a seasoned hacker... in fact, my occupation
> is quite on the opposite side of the spectrum...
>
>  You also seem to know more than I do what the Ubuntu VM I have contains.
>
>  But that must make all the difference! I mean, people that don't know
> qubits from bits shouldn't be allowed in such discussions
> (of course there's wikipedia...)
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Georgi Guninski <guninski () guninski com>wrote:
>
> > Christian Sciberras,
> >
> > I have trouble judging your technical skills - all I have seen is bad
> > smalltalk.
> >
> > Do you have any technical publications you can share so I can judge?
> >
> > btw, the best i found was you could could reproduce a bug in a CMS and in
> > addition you can't tell root from user password on vanilla ubuntu.
> >
> > --
> > joro
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 02:11:13AM +0200, Christian Sciberras wrote:
> > > > So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?
> > >
> > > No. But it's certainly better than doing damage without profit. Making
> > > profit means that at the end of the day, the money's going to go
> > somewhere
> > > further in the chain.
> > > Flattening a tower, for instance, or attacking the local bank that
> > refused
> > > to give you a loan because of the time you spent in a cell, isn't as
> > > productive.
> > > Neither is it making a company loose clients/profit just because they
> > > decided they don't want you to use their services (as if you did have a
> > > right in the first place...).
> > >
> > > > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of
> > responsibility
> > > in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but the
> > largest
> > > share of responsibility lies with the names listed below.
> > >
> > > The largest share? I can see Ex-president Bush trying to sell you a
> > bottle
> > > of beer for $10 dollars ($7 profit). Wait, I can't.
> > >
> > > > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime of
> > it,
> > > most people are decent human beings and would do the same.
> > >
> > > Most people? I could have sworn 90% of the people in the NYC subway
> > would
> > > thank $deity if you suddenly dropped dead so they could get things off
> > you.
> > > Call me cynical, but I wouldn't trust anyone else in such cases, other
> > than
> > > myself.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regarding that list of yours, great! Now we just need a little more
> > effort.
> > > For each of those persons, please enlighten us as to what they did
> > legally
> > > wrong.
> > > Of course, the people that landed in jail shouldn't be counted. The "99%
> > > protest" is a modern one committed to change, it just can't right wrongs
> > by
> > > pointing at jailed people.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org>
> > wrote:
> > > >  On 10/13/2011 9:18 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I simply acknowledge the fact that some people work hard to get
> > "obscenely
> > > > rich", but I just can't stand people that cause damage for the fun of
> > it.
> > > >  So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?
> > > >
> > > >  Yes, I stick for everyone that minds his business, instead of ruining
> > > > others' for the fun of it.
> > > >
> > > >  What bothers me is the fact that those hypocrites (protesters) are
> > crying
> > > > out loud against some people they're highly envious of with the excuse
> > of
> > > > "the depression".
> > > > Well, here's the news; the famous depression has been brought about by
> > > > these same people!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of
> > responsibility
> > > > in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but the
> > largest
> > > > share of responsibility lies with the names listed below.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  If someone above is collecting free money because of incentives for
> > > > people to spend money (and which seem to work well), I can't blame
> > him.
> > > >  Yes because trickle down theory worked *so* well
> > > >
> > > >  How many times in your life have you paid back something you received
> > by
> > > > mistake and which wasn't yours?
> > > > While I would foremost applaud anyone that would right such a wrong, I
> > just
> > > > can't ignore the fact that those people out there representing the
> > "99%" are
> > > > big-time hypocrites.
> > > >
> > > > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime of
> > it,
> > > > most people are decent human beings and would do the same.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  On a different argument, since you seem to know well enough how some
> > of
> > > > the 1% are doing immoral things, why don't you start by handing out
> > names
> > > > instead of talking air just as the "99%" crowd has been doing up till
> > now?
> > > >
> >  > > *Alan Greenspan, chairman of US Federal Reserve 1987- 2006
> > > > **Mervyn King, governor of the Bank of England
> > > > **Bill Clinton, former US president*
> > > > *Gordon Brown, prime minister*
> > > > *George W Bush, former US president*
> > > > *Senator Phil Gramm
> > > > **Abby Cohen, Goldman Sachs chief US strategist
> > > > **Kathleen Corbet, former CEO, Standard & Poor's
> > > > **"Hank" Greenberg, AIG insurance group
> > > > **Andy Hornby, former HBOS boss
> > > > **Steve Crawshaw, former B&B boss
> > > > **Adam Applegarth, former Northern Rock boss
> > > > **Dick Fuld, Lehman Brothers chief executive
> > > > **Ralph Cioffi and Matthew Tannin
> > > > **Lewis Ranieri
> > > > **Joseph Cassano, AIG Financial Products
> > > > **Chuck Prince, former Citi boss
> > > > **Angelo Mozilo, Countrywide Financial
> > > > **Stan O'Neal, former boss of Merrill Lynch*
> > > > *Jimmy Cayne, former Bear Stearns boss
> > > > **Christopher Dodd, chairman, Senate banking committee (Democrat)
> > > > **Geir Haarde, Icelandic prime minister
> > > > **John Tiner, FSA chief executive, 2003-07*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh yeah and lets not forget about this guy
> > http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877337,00.html
> > > > And while he is thankfully spending time in a prison cell, so many
> > other
> > > > names on this list go free, in fact a good chunk of them made a profit
> > off
> > > > of the disaster.
> >
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> Lets keep the discussion above the belt guys ok?
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