Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default

[Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>]

What is the security differential between su and sudo bash?

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On Nov 19, 2011, at 6:15 AM, james () zero-internet org uk wrote:

> I'll second that; the isp I work at has a sizeable ubuntu customer base and these are customers who have made an 
> informed decision.
>
> Now; let's consider ubuntu's inherited security from debian such as configuring a 'mortal account' (admittedly can be 
> ignored in the preseed) and then the lack of perms on su; must use sudo.
>
> This is a distro that is newbie friendly but is not designed specifically for them.
>
> Unfortunately, though, you make a distro with simplified tasks (printer installation a fantastic example) and people, 
> especially long term linuxers- though I ought to be included I guess, remember back all too easily to when everything 
> was an uphill struggle: "what do you mean I don't have to compile this as a flipping module? That's not freedom!" 
> Being all too familiar.
>
> Just my tuppence worth anyway.
>
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>
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