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Re: go public to avoid jail
From: T Biehn <tbiehn () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 13:16:54 -0400
Which is why this analogy is flawed. -Travis On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Marsh Ray <marsh () extendedsubset com> wrote:
If your knife is found in a dead body, you've going to have some explaining to do. If it turns out that you're a restaurant supply business that sells 3000 of that model knife a week, then you don't have a problem. If your buddy comes to you and says "I'm going to go stab some people and take their money will you construct for me a custom knife particularly well-suited for that purpose" and you say "sure, here you go, heh, no charge this time" and this conversation is recorded as evidence then both of you are going to get prosecuted. No one (seriously, no one) is going to be the least bit impressed by the "factories sell knives all the time" argument. The point is that you knew this specific knife was intended to be used in for this purpose and you decided to go out of your way to help. Hacking/pen-test tools can definitely push the gray area a bit, but the custom-knife-in-dead-body example does not. - Marsh On 5/3/2010 5:34 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:No, I'm being damn realistic. If it weren't me providing a knife to "my buddy" it would be someone else, or some kitchen drawer. Also, why do I go to jail, not the shop owner that sold me the knife? Orthefactory owner? It's this guy that should be liable to the crime, not the provider. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Ed Carp <erc () pobox com> wrote:Oh, stop it. If you give your buddy a knife, knowing they're going to go out and stab someone with it, you're going to jail, too. Stop playing the fool._______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: go public to avoid jail T Biehn (May 03)
- Re: go public to avoid jail J Roger (May 03)
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- Re: go public to avoid jail Valdis . Kletnieks (May 03)
- Re: go public to avoid jail J Roger (May 03)
- Re: go public to avoid jail Valdis . Kletnieks (May 03)
- Re: go public to avoid jail Christian Sciberras (May 03)
- Re: go public to avoid jail PsychoBilly (May 04)
- Re: go public to avoid jail Ed Carp (May 03)