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Re: Introducing TGP...
From: "Thor (Hammer Of God)" <thor () hammerofgod com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:05:00 -0700
I don't get it - in 5 years his iPhone will crack RSA2048 while listening to Iron Butterfly yet all the PCs in the world won't be able to handle AV. It's evident that I should consult him, particularly when it comes to reccomending what "hash" I should use :D T On Jun 14, 2010, at 8:51 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:21:37 BST, lsi said:Ancient crypto? You really have no effing clue, do you?Whatever you use today, it will be ancient in 5 years.PGP came out when? 1991. Will be a quarter century old in 5 years. AES came out when? Standardized in 2001 after a 5-year process by NIST. OpenSSL finally made it to 1.0 this year after a 12 year stint at 0.9.X (it sat at 0.9.8 for 5 years). Amazingly enough, they're all pretty much still going strong - mostly because the crypto field moves pretty damned slowly. The general philosophy in crypto isn't "It will be ancient in 5 years", it's "we won't even trust it for live deployment until good people have bashed it for a decade". On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:47:42 BST, lsi said:Even if nobody finds a weakness in the algorithm you used, 5 years from now I will probably have enough spare CPU to brute-force it using my mobile phone....Moore's Law doesn't move *that* fast. What was the fastest commercially available processor in 2005? What is it today? What gain was there over the last 5 years, and is there reason to expect the next 5 to be any different? More to the point - most mobile phones use ARM processors to keep the power consumption down. As a result, they're a tad slower than what you'll find in desktops and servers (hint - how well would your cell phone work if it had to carrry around the heat sink a Core2 Duo needs?). And what good drugs are you on that you think a cell phone processor 5 years from now will have the CPU power that current moby-cluster supercomputers have? (If we're on the verge of making those sort of advances, I want to see what a Sony Playstation 4 can do in 2015. Yowza - holodeck time. ;) Might be more cost-efficient to get to the holodeck using the drugs you're on thought. ;) _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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