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Re: How Prosecutors Wiretap Wall Street
From: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists () tx rr com>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:30:25 -0600
--On Tuesday, November 03, 2009 22:52:28 -0600 Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:13:24 CST, Paul Schmehl said:Of course, without a warrant they can't wiretap anything. Furthermore every warrant to wiretap has to be accompanied by evidence that justifies the warrant and signed by a federal judge who agrees that there is sufficient cause for the wiretap, and illegal wiretaps will not only get your case thrown out of court but your butt thrown in jail as well.You're new here, aren't you? :) We're talking here about the FBI, which has had problems with their abuse of surveillance from J Edgar Hoover's early years up to the recent problems with abuses of NSLs. And you expect us to believe they'll toe the line when using this surveillance ability?
No, nor did I state that. I said that illegal wiretapping will get thrown out of court and the perpetrators jailed. That's a separate issue from whether or not agents will all act within the law.
Oh, and how much time did J Edgar spend in jail for his illegal wiretaps? And how much time will anybody spend in jail for the NSL abuses?
Depends on whether anyone decides to prosecute. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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