Full Disclosure mailing list archives
Re: can someone please try and explain to me....
From: "J. Oquendo" <sil () infiltrated net>
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:14:00 -0400
Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:06:58 EDT, J Michael Graham said:Man, I LOVE sayin it. I say it all the time. Boss comes in talking about budget cuts, I just stand up shouting "CYBERWAR!!" and he backs out the doorway. Mission accomplished.I find completing sentences with "As prophesied in ancient scripture" does that to bosses too. The problem is that most of what we've seen has been more properly described as 'cyber-espionage' or 'cyber-border-skirmish'. But most journalist's eyes glaze over if there's more than 7-8 letters in the word, so we're stuck with them using 'cyberwar'. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
I personally find that it's more appealing and spookier to say "cyberwar" if you want to pass through - I don't know - your agenda, your budget. Nothing says "We're underfunded" from contractors more than "cyberwar". Remember, many quotes come from many-a-DoD-contractor. Keep that in mind, when the sayings slash quotes shift from "Korea is e-nuking us" to "we can neither confirm nor deny" or "we simply don't know" you have to look at who's talking: "In the dozens of instances that I worked over the past decade, I cannot recall a single instance in which someone intending to attack came from the source it appeared to have come from," said Dale W. Meyerrose, former chief information officer for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. "Most attackers in cyberspace try to mask who they really are." (NY Times) “The code is really pretty elementary in many respects,” he added. “I’m doubting that the author is a computer science graduate student.” Jose Nazarrio I put my money on Arbor's view. Remember, earlier this year according to media and government, China was all the rage. Budgets were passed and ironically all the Chinese hackers in the world retired. Think about that for a minute or two. It could make a good episode of "Where are they now?" In the interim, politics will be what politricks will be: dod-contractor:~# nemesis-icmp -S 202.130.245.42 -D 127.0.0.1 -i 4 && echo "China's cyberattacking us! We're simply underfunded" |mail -s "Cyberwarefare" Siobhan.Gorman at wsj.com -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ J. Oquendo SGFA, SGFE, C|EH, CNDA, CHFI, OSCP "It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently." - Warren Buffett 227C 5D35 7DCB 0893 95AA 4771 1DCE 1FD1 5CCD 6B5E http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x5CCD6B5E _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Current thread:
- can someone please try and explain to me.... Gadi Evron (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... Andrew Kuriger (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... foofus (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... J Michael Graham (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... foofus (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... T Biehn (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... Tom Neaves (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... T Biehn (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... J Michael Graham (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... J. Oquendo (Jul 09)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... Gadi Evron's Cholesterol (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... Andrew Kuriger (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... Gadi Evron (Jul 09)
- Re: can someone please try and explain to me.... Gadi Evron's Cholesterol (Jul 09)