Re: Barack Obama <-- Not Appropriate

[Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider () gmail com>]

You make less and less sense with every post you make. You are delusional.
Ask for help (not online).

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:34 AM, j-f sentier <j.sentiar () gmail com> wrote:

> And you ?
>
> Please tell me god, i know i'm an inferior human being regarding you, but
> please tell me
>
> 2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider () gmail com>
>
> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:03 AM, j-f sentier <j.sentiar () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > > hey bitch, you're the first to spread propaganda here, then STFU.
> > this mailing list is archived online - it's not difficult to prove you
> > wrong, but you ignore reality so I'm not going to bother (it's too easy for
> > others to do if they really cared)
> >
> >
> > You've got no creditbility here.
> > >
> > Why, because you say so?
> >
> > What did you do for computer security lately?
> >
> >
> > > 2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider () gmail com>
> > >
> > > > the fact that you express your opinions on a political manner in a
> > > > comsec mailing list and they happen to be copied from terrorist propaganda
> > > > (i.e. baseless, ignores reality, full of lies and distortions)
> > > >
> > > > And when you are presented with facts that contradict what you said, you
> > > > shift the argument to baseless character attacks (with your pathetic
> > > > English).
> > > >
> > > > That basically proves you are here to do propaganda - either voluntarily
> > > > (because you are EVIL) - or because you are paid to do it by evil
> > > > people/governments (like Iran, who is known to support terrorists).
> > > >
> > > > But it does not explain why you expect n3td3v to stop his computer
> > > > security related discussions (that are not technical, but computer security
> > > > related), when you don't stop your propaganda that is _completely unrelated
> > > > to computer security_?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:38 AM, j-f sentier <j.sentiar () gmail com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > yeah totally, i work for fucking IRAN punk, if i'm agains free israeli
> > > > > bull-shit, and n3tcr4p , then i'm ureleet or Iran propaganda or something
> > > > > EVIL.
> > > > >
> > > > > this prove your closed-mind side which in this case turns in a fucking
> > > > > brown noze.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2009/1/22 andrew.wallace <andrew.wallace () rocketmail com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Remember in the Palestine war thread he accused you for working for
> > > > > > Mossad and being paid to post on full-disclosure. Though he
> > > > > > propagandas against n3td3v constantly to turn the world against me or
> > > > > > something. Maybe its j-f sentier who is paid to be here and propaganda
> > > > > > against things. He may not be a terrorist but he uses terrorist like
> > > > > > tactics to turn hatred on. j-f sentier's defence will be, 'but
> > > > > > 'Ureleet' done it so it must be ok to join in'. If 'Ureleet' told you
> > > > > > to jump off a bridge would you do it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andrew
> > > > > > Intelligencer &
> > > > > > Founder of n3td3v
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Avraham Schneider
> > > > > > <avri.schneider () gmail com> wrote:
> > > > > > > The fact that he bears the same name as me, does not mean it's me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't spam propaganda - I invalidate yours.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:16 AM, j-f sentier <j.sentiar () gmail com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > which propaganda ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > you're spamming propaganda everytime you post.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But i understand why now :
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1049327.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The footage also shows an Israeli soldier, believed by the
> > > > > > military
> > > > > > > > police to be Corporal Avraham Schneider, picking up stones and
> > > > > > participating
> > > > > > > > in the disturbance, instead of preventing it. "
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everything is clearer than ever.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider () gmail com>
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <A.L.M.Buxey () lboro ac uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > I called for John Cartwright to setup a non-technical cyber
> > > > > > security
> > > > > > > > > > > political full-disclosure mailing list some time ago, nothing
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > > > setup.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > because he didnt want to - and theres no demand?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What are the solutions for splitting up full-disclosure into
> > > > > > technical
> > > > > > > > > > > and non-technical conversation unless two seperate mailing
> > > > > > lists are
> > > > > > > > > > > created?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > go off and create a yahoo or google mailing list for such drivel
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I second that. If he wants to have a list for different types of
> > > > > > > > > discussions, the best choice is to just open one yourself.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As for getting 'traffic' there, I doubt people would stop posting
> > > > > > here
> > > > > > > > > and start posting there (as nothing would stop them from posting
> > > > > > it here).
> > > > > > > > > > and let FD go back to what it was a few years back - readable and
> > > > > > > > > > useful!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > FD is un-moderated and as such people can post whatever they want
> > > > > > > > > (security related or not).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Usually, people would avoid annoying others with non-security
> > > > > > related
> > > > > > > > > topics - but in the case of js-sentiner and co., one can expect
> > > > > > some spam.
> > > > > > > > > Sometimes, when they decide to attack others (either with
> > > > > > propaganda, or
> > > > > > > > > just because they are bored) , those attacked have two options -
> > > > > > either a)
> > > > > > > > > ignore it or b) respond with non-security related posts and defend
> > > > > > > > > themselves (or oppose their propaganda).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As far as readibility is concerned, that can easily be
> > > > > > accomplished by
> > > > > > > > > either white or black list filters - i.e. if you only care about a
> > > > > > certain
> > > > > > > > > vendor's patch notifications, put a filter to get them and
> > > > > > blacklist the
> > > > > > > > > rest; if you care not to get any andrew wallase/avraham
> > > > > > schneider/js
> > > > > > > > > sentier/whatever/whoever conversations - set a filter for that -
> > > > > > and you are
> > > > > > > > > back with a readable FD.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just keep in mind that your posts requesting FD to go back to
> > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > readable, are not computer security related either (at least
> > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > wickedly twisting the meaning of the phrase 'computer security').
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So for the same reason you find it OK to post your request (and it
> > > > > > is),
> > > > > > > > > andrew finds it OK to posts his (and it is).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Not trying to defend n3td3v or anything - but there's some
> > > > > > hypocricy
> > > > > > > > > here.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ala
> > > > > > > > > >
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