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Re: Barack Obama <-- Not Appropriate


From: j-f sentier <j.sentiar () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:38:22 -0500

yeah totally, i work for fucking IRAN punk, if i'm agains free israeli
bull-shit, and n3tcr4p , then i'm ureleet or Iran propaganda or something
EVIL.

this prove your closed-mind side which in this case turns in a fucking brown
noze.


2009/1/22 andrew.wallace <andrew.wallace () rocketmail com>

Remember in the Palestine war thread he accused you for working for
Mossad and being paid to post on full-disclosure. Though he
propagandas against n3td3v constantly to turn the world against me or
something. Maybe its j-f sentier who is paid to be here and propaganda
against things. He may not be a terrorist but he uses terrorist like
tactics to turn hatred on. j-f sentier's defence will be, 'but
'Ureleet' done it so it must be ok to join in'. If 'Ureleet' told you
to jump off a bridge would you do it?

Andrew
Intelligencer &
Founder of n3td3v

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Avraham Schneider
<avri.schneider () gmail com> wrote:
The fact that he bears the same name as me, does not mean it's me.

I don't spam propaganda - I invalidate yours.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:16 AM, j-f sentier <j.sentiar () gmail com>
wrote:

which propaganda ?

you're spamming propaganda everytime you post.

But i understand why now :

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1049327.html

"The footage also shows an Israeli soldier, believed by the military
police to be Corporal Avraham Schneider, picking up stones and
participating
in the disturbance, instead of preventing it. "

Everything is clearer than ever.

2009/1/22 Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider () gmail com>


On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <A.L.M.Buxey () lboro ac uk> wrote:

Hi,
I called for John Cartwright to setup a non-technical cyber security
political full-disclosure mailing list some time ago, nothing was
setup.

because he didnt want to - and theres no demand?

What are the solutions for splitting up full-disclosure into
technical
and non-technical conversation unless two seperate mailing lists are
created?

go off and create a yahoo or google mailing list for such drivel

I second that. If he wants to have a list for different types of
discussions, the best choice is to just open one yourself.

As for getting 'traffic' there, I doubt people would stop posting here
and start posting there (as nothing would stop them from posting it
here).


and let FD go back to what it was a few years back - readable and
useful!

FD is un-moderated and as such people can post whatever they want
(security related or not).

Usually, people would avoid annoying others with non-security related
topics - but in the case of js-sentiner and co., one can expect some
spam.

Sometimes, when they decide to attack others (either with propaganda,
or
just because they are bored) , those attacked have two options - either
a)
ignore it or b) respond with non-security related posts and defend
themselves (or oppose their propaganda).

As far as readibility is concerned, that can easily be accomplished by
either white or black list filters - i.e. if you only care about a
certain
vendor's patch notifications, put a filter to get them and blacklist
the
rest; if you care not to get any andrew wallase/avraham schneider/js
sentier/whatever/whoever conversations - set a filter for that - and
you are
back with a readable FD.

Just keep in mind that your posts requesting FD to go back to being
readable, are not computer security related either (at least without
wickedly twisting the meaning of the phrase 'computer security').

So for the same reason you find it OK to post your request (and it is),
andrew finds it OK to posts his (and it is).

Not trying to defend n3td3v or anything - but there's some hypocricy
here.



ala

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