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Re: NTLM Multiprotocol Replay attacks
From: "William Lefkovics" <william () lefkovics net>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:16:01 -0800
Isn't the key 'profiting' from their crimes versus talking/writing about them? I hope so. From: Trollie Fingers [mailto:trolliefingers () gmail com] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:54 PM To: william () lefkovics net Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu; full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] NTLM Multiprotocol Replay attacks he'd probably be on shaky ground if he wrote a book *specifically* about the hacks that got him landed in jail. [snip] Now that the statute of limitations has lifted on many of his crimes -- as well as a seven-year court ban prohibiting him from writing about them (the ban ended midnight on January 28, 2007) -- former hacker Kevin Mitnick is telling his story in a book to be published next year. [/snip] http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/08/kevin-mitnick-t.html FYI. I don't subscribe to the belief that criminals cannot talk about their crimes. That is ridiculous. They become popular because people have interest. If there were no interest then this wouldn't be an issue. I also don't think we should prevent people from arranging words as they sit fit on printed items. Isn't there some sort of amendment over here that protects this kind of thing? (For those in Ermerika.) On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:24 PM, william () lefkovics net <william () lefkovics net> wrote: OJ was acquitted of the crime allegedly admitted in his "book". He could profit from it then, right? Of course, he does have a huge debt from the related civil suit he lost and any money he makes from anything is fair game. OJ is not a good example there... well, unless he writes a book on his most recent conviction for armed robbery/kidnapping here in Las Vegas. _____ From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:31 AM To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] NTLM Multiprotocol Replay attacks On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:46:50 GMT, n3td3v said:
We should bring in a law to stop criminal hackers from profiteering from their crimes or otherwise reaching any kind of stardom.
You might want to actually investigate what the law really is in your area. In most areas, there already *are* laws that specifically prohibit or severely restrict a convicted felon's ability to profit from their notoriety by selling interviews/books/film rights/etc regarding the crime in question. This is why OJ Simpson will probably see next to zero profits from any "How I did it" books he tries to sell (the victim's family has first claim on that money), and why Kevin Mitnick can write a book about 'The Art of Deception' and make money off it, but he'd probably be on shaky ground if he wrote a book *specifically* about the hacks that got him landed in jail. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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