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Re: Need some help with management


From: "Kurt Dillard" <kurtdillard () msn com>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 15:52:30 -0300

If your team isn't going to be managing this server who is? 

Ask him this: would it be ok for your penpal from Russia to bring his family over and move into your boss' spare 
bedroom for a few months until they find their own place? Come on, it will be fine, you've been trading emails with 
this guy for a couple of years now. He told you he has a job lined up over here so he won't be a financial burden or 
anything. His kids sound like fun too, your boss' family will love them!

You don't just want to try to shoot down the idea without having alternatives prepared. If all you do is try to negate 
business initiatives you'll find all of the managers trying to bypass you in the future. You need to be seen as a 
strategic enabler rather than a blocker. I suggest you determine what the business reasons are for this decision and 
then try to find a better solution that protects your organization's sensitive data and systems while addressing the 
original requirements. Do they want to share data with a key partner? Do they want to outsource some work? What purpose 
will the system serve?

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of 
Paul Schmehl
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:25 PM
To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Need some help with management

--On Thursday, May 22, 2008 09:51:01 -0700 Daniel Sichel 
<daniels () Ponderosatel com> wrote:



My management here wants to put a server on our LAN, not administered by us
(the IT department) and use a share on it to serve files and data to our
workstations.  They do not understand why having a server with a file share
that is NOT part of our secure infrastructure represents a threat to the
computers accessing it. Keep in mind this is an all Windows network. Sooo, if
you guys can succinctly explain why having a trusted computer trust an
untrusted computer is a problem, that would be helpful. Keep in mind we are
talking to management here. It’s kind of like trying to explain why, when
you are in the United States, it’s a bad idea to drive on the left hand
side of the road. It’s just so basic it’s not documented anywhere. So,
please help me explain why netbios and file shares on machines not within
your network are bad ideas.


OK.

So, Mr. PHB, why is it that your chauffeur stays with your limo when you're not 
there?  Because you don't want to trust your limo to just anybody?

:-)

-- 
Paul Schmehl
As if it wasn't already obvious,
my opinions are my own and not
those of my employer.

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