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Re: RE: OT - Check this out - Full disclosure is apt for this
From: bkfsec <bkfsec () sdf lonestar org>
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:26:15 -0400
Throwaway1 () columbus rr com wrote:
It's not a joke Gary. If you are attempting to make the claim that Saddam NEVER had WMD you are either Profoundly Misinformed, Astonishingly Ignorant of Late 20th Century History; or simply Lying.
Wow. How utterly intellectually dishonest of you...Saying that the Bush administration knowingly lied about Weapons of Mass Destruction is *NOT* saying that Saddam never had WMD. What planet do you live on? Are you really that fucking dense to believe that people claiming the administration lied believe Saddam never had WMDs?
This is an old right-wing, dittohead radio talking point from 2003 that never was grounded in reality and shows exactly where you're coming from.
Disproven... you fell into a hoax yourself.. or really, you bought the rhetoric which took bits and pieces of a weapons inspection report and piecemealed it to death until it said "WMDs" when it didn't.We never did find the stockpiles we were looking for. The closest we came was a shitload of bunkers filled with nerve agents that were still in theirunmixed binary form; and some bio-warfare reference strains.
Bullshit. Not all intelligence agencies agreed on the existance or number of WMDs in his possession. In fact, there was significant disagreement in our own governmental agencies regarding those points. In fact, our own former weapons inspecters made statements saying that there's no way he had the levels that we were claiming. The UN weapons inspection team disagreed with those figures and, golly gee, they might have a good reason to have disagreed.So that means that either damn near every major intelligence agency in the world was wrong at the SAME TIME, or Saddam did a better job of hidin' 'em than we did of lookin' for 'em.
Yet again you dredge up another bullshit right-wing talking point that is not grounded in reality...
I don't need to listen to you, all I need to do is turn on the fucking radio and switch to my local fascist propaganda channel.
Bullshit. You know what's sacrificing logic and common sense? Ignoring the facts in front of you, which is precisely what you're doing.Now I realize that there are a lot of people who don't like GWB. That's fine with me. Not my problem. What IS my problem is those same people sacrificing LOGIC and COMMON SENSE on the alter of their rage at Bush andas a result perpetuating a completely false history of the past 5-6 years.
Common sense says that there's no way he could have still had WMDs that our own people destroyed. Common sense says you question the validity of sources used to provide proof. Common sense says you interpret all of the data, not piecemeal specific portions of it.
You say you have a problem with people creating a conclusion and picking and choosing evidence to support it? How ironic that that's precisely what the Bush administration did. You'd have to be a moron not to see that at this point. And not only that, but at this point you're not just a moron, you're also a hypocrite for defending the Bush administration for doing precisely what you're accusing the rest of us for doing.
Hey buddy, you chose the wrong side. Don't take it out on us. -bkfsec _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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