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RE: Re: Re: PC Firewall Choices
From: "Greg" <full-disclosure2 () pchandyman com au>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:08:41 +1100
-----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of Stan Bubrouski Sent: Friday, 20 January 2006 7:51 AM To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: Re: PC Firewall Choices On 1/19/06, Dave Korn <davek_throwaway () hotmail com> wrote:Stan Bubrouski wrote in news:122827b90601190801w2a7f8206h5d8973cf6b240788 () mail gmail comAs cruel as that last message was I'm sick of the ZA pros here saying its perfect, its not, far from it.Since nobody has ever claimed that ZA is perfect, insaying this youproveYeah I didn't literally mean perfect, only that certain people seem to argue that everyone's complaints about ZA aren't real because they don't experience them. What proof
Actually, seeing no-one actually said that, I suppose that is a pointer towards you REALLY meaning that YOU cant make the prog do something therefore no-one can. IMHO, ZA has some good points in it. As I said before, it is easy as buggery to set up and has ways to fix stuff that make lief easier. One such example in a wi-fi network that would get internet through the router but not connect to shares was a mate of mine, needing to get out quickly, simply installed ZA on each Windows machine and attempted to access shares from one machine to the next and went to that other machine and added each manually set IP to the trusted list. That got the workers through OK until he had the time (after a few days skiing) to get back and fix it all properly. Bloody XP Pro and Home mix for some reason. I like it's ability to show "I KNOW hardware firewalls are better than software ones and WONT be told anything else because *I* know - don't you?" types the logs that ZA free edition, behind their hardware firewall, picks up of whatever comes it's way through the router without even upsetting a thing there. That doesn't mean that ZA stopped everything but there are SOME things stopped and logged so it is a cause for worry for them. They think they are safe. Clearly they arent safe behind their hardware firewall and once more I say "For every so-called security professional who THINKS a hardware firewall is all you need, there is a blackhat laughing behind your back". OK that was slightly altered but it gets the point across.
could I profer here? Some flawed benchmark? A video? Why would I bother you assume I'm lying anyways.that your claims are either lies or hyperbole. If you can't argue with whatSo because you think that one sentence is misleading (in retrospect 'perfect' was not a good word choice), everything else I said must be untrue. Sigh.people actually said, making up things that they didn't say is fatuously dishonest.You are the one being dishonest and the one exaggerating here. You take something too literally, and call people
Actually, I would have to agree with him that it was you doing that. You either lied or exaggerated above as I pointed out. Deal with it. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: PC Firewall Choices, (continued)
- Re: PC Firewall Choices Morning Wood (Jan 17)
- Re: PC Firewall Choices Nic Werner (Jan 17)
- RE: PC Firewall Choices Greg (Jan 17)
- Re: PC Firewall Choices Nic Werner (Jan 17)
- RE: PC Firewall Choices Greg (Jan 17)
- Re: PC Firewall Choices Dave Korn (Jan 19)
- Re: Re: PC Firewall Choices Stan Bubrouski (Jan 19)
- Re: Re: PC Firewall Choices Stan Bubrouski (Jan 19)
- Re: Re: PC Firewall Choices Dave Korn (Jan 19)
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