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Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics
From: Andre Ludwig <andre.ludwig () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:33:50 -0400
I prefer this definition cyber terrorism - Using electronic means to execute premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience. Note the use of the word violence.. taken from Title 22 of the US Code, Section 2656f(d): and then modified to fit into the topic at hand. Dre On 9/27/05, str0ke <str0ke () milw0rm com> wrote:
Terrorism doesn't always mean death my friend, here is the definition of terrorism. ter·ror·ism Audio pronunciation of "terrorism" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tr-rzm) n. The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons. Im sure "cyber terrorism" is a threatened use of force or violence on someones computer (property) with intimidating skiddie talk. /str0ke On 9/27/05, Ken Pfeil <Ken () infosec101 org> wrote:Since when does a website defacement classify as "cyber terrorism"? Name one person that has ever lost their life as a result of a website defacement. One would suggest you buy a fckin clue before letting fly with garbage like this. Ooohh... That's right. I'm sorry. Numbers *and* letters in your handle. You must know what you're talking about. -k n3td3v wrote:Hi, I have reviewed your site and it sucks. Looks like you're trying to encourage the activity of webpage defacement and bringing celebrity status to those who can deface/ submit the most defacements. You make it look legal by saying the site is useful for research, but really, we all know it encourages the malicious kids who submit to the site. I don't know why the security services in the U.S haven't closed you down. Your site is in comparison to asking terrorist bombers to post suicide bombing videos to a website and asking you to look at it. The only difference here is, Zone-H is about cyber terrorism, rather than terrorism in the real world. Do the U.S security services take cyber terrorism as seriously as real world terrorism? And if they do, Why is Zone-H still online? A journalist should ask that question at Bush's next news conference. Also: Are Zone-H admins about to expand the website to allow for suicide bombing video's, or is that different from the cyber terrorism that your site currently supports. And if you don't support cyber terrorism, then why is Zone-H online and why are you an admin of Zone-H.org Thats all for now, Thanks, n3td3v On 9/27/05, Gerardo 'Astharot' Di Giacomo <astharot () zone-h org> wrote:Hello, http://www.zone-h.org Gerardo 'Astharot' Di Giacomo - Zone-H Admin_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Gerardo 'Astharot' Di Giacomo (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics n3td3v (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Joxean Koret (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Ken Pfeil (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics str0ke (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Andre Ludwig (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics n3td3v (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Andre Ludwig (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics eric williams (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics n3td3v (Sep 27)
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- RE: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Richard Horsman (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Joxean Koret (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics KF (lists) (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics str0ke (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics n3td3v (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Andre Ludwig (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics bkfsec (Sep 27)
- Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Joxean Koret (Sep 27)