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RE: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd)
From: "Scott Schappert" <sschappert () molecular-inversion-dynamics com>
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 06:53:17 -0800
People seem to forget that your place of birth is not your choice. Should you choose to rant about earning to scorn others for having a different philosophy about freedom and death, that is cool, but remember the scaffolding you fought for includes (our?) constitutional amendments. People do not have to die to realize freedom. Seems the days of "freedom of thought" and personal responsibility have eclipsed. Do we really need the weight of destruction of people we have never met placed squarely upon our shoulders ? And for what ? Jobs, economy ? Get real and read the signs. In closing- a quote: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger, and are not fed. Those who are cold, and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense; under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron" -Dwight D. Eisenhower I apologize, but a freedom loving, peaceful and responsible person cannot turn their eyes from the brutal reality, that just does not have to be. Cheers to the list. S.S. Ex nihilo, nihil. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of Benjamin Franz Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 6:28 AM To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd) On Sun, 18 Dec 2005, Jamie C. Pole wrote:
Well, for one thing, I am a veteran, and have EARNED these rights that you
liberal whiners take for granted. When you believe in something enough to
die for it, come back and talk to me.
I'm a veteran as well. 6 years in the US Navy: 1987 through 1993. I served during Gulf War I aboard the ship that fired the second shots of the war (although the press got it wrong by about 20 minutes and reported them as the first shots) and was the US force closest to Kuwait the day it was invaded by Iraq. We were 75 miles of its coast. I remember being woken up at an ungodly hour of the morning that day by the ship going to General Quarters and working in the guts of the broken missile launcher that was the ship's long range air defense repairing it while some hundreds of planes of unknown intent were flying south towards us the next day (after having been woken up by another call to General Quarters that morning). Now go to hell. -- Benjamin Franz _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd), (continued)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) J.A. Terranson (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) Andrew A (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) Dude VanWinkle (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) coderman (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) Jamie C. Pole (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) coderman (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) Jamie C. Pole (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) Dude VanWinkle (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) Dude VanWinkle (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) Benjamin Franz (Dec 19)
- RE: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd) Scott Schappert (Dec 19)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd) Disco Jonny (Dec 19)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) J.A. Terranson (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) J.A. Terranson (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) J.A. Terranson (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd) GroundZero Security (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd) Jamie C. Pole (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recentevents.(fwd) GroundZero Security (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events. (fwd) J.A. Terranson (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd) GroundZero Security (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd) Jamie C. Pole (Dec 18)
- Re: [Clips] A small editorial about recent events.(fwd) J.A. Terranson (Dec 18)